Father Passed and Left me his collection. Please Help.

xplainer · #1 02-10-2019, 07:41 PM

A quick check on google brings up yaz sportcards. Yaz, you want to jump in here? I know you are a member.
Please explain it all. What do you know about this guys dads cards?

Yastrzemski Sports · #2 02-10-2019, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by xplainer

A quick check on google brings up yaz sportcards. Yaz, you want to jump in here? I know you are a member.
Please explain it all. What do you know about this guys dads cards?

Hi. I am here. If he says they were bought before he was born I am assuming 20+ years ago - probably sometime in the 80s or 90s. I have only had a store here since 2006. I had family in Cooperstown and spent a couple of weeks here every summer but I was a kid myself and don�t remember seeing anything like this. Probably likely that his dad picked up some items here and at the Albany shows at the Polish Community Center and he also mentioned auctions. But it�s before my time to know exactly where they came from.
I did send him a message with an offer to help if he was in the area. I carry card savers and can help him get a submission ready for psa, to determine which are appropriate for grading, give an estimate of value, etc. I haven�t heard back but the offer is still out there.

xplainer · #3 02-11-2019, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Yastrzemski Sports

Hi. I am here. If he says they were bought before he was born I am assuming 20+ years ago - probably sometime in the 80s or 90s. I have only had a store here since 2006. I had family in Cooperstown and spent a couple of weeks here every summer but I was a kid myself and don�t remember seeing anything like this. Probably likely that his dad picked up some items here and at the Albany shows at the Polish Community Center and he also mentioned auctions. But it�s before my time to know exactly where they came from.
I did send him a message with an offer to help if he was in the area. I carry card savers and can help him get a submission ready for psa, to determine which are appropriate for grading, give an estimate of value, etc. I haven�t heard back but the offer is still out there.

Thanks Adam.

orly57 · #4 02-12-2019, 01:00 AM

13 pages of comments, and I only counted one mention of PWCC. I wonder how PWCC manages to survive when almost none of the members on this board consign with them. So weird. Wonder where they get all those cards from.

pokerplyr80 · #5 02-12-2019, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by orly57

13 pages of comments, and I only counted one mention of PWCC. I wonder how PWCC manages to survive when almost none of the members on this board consign with them. So weird. Wonder where they get all those cards from.

I assume this is said in jest. I consign most cards I sell through pwcc. And if I inherited these cards that's probably were most would wind up after getting them graded. But for someone with little hobby knowledge I think the OP would probably be better off selling the entire lot to a dealer who buys collections.

If he is willing to take the time to educate himself and spend some money authenticating and grading the cards he may be able to net a little more either selling them on his own, or consigning the big cards to pwcc and selling the rest here or on Ebay.

Despite popular opinion on this board lotg is one of the last places I would consider. I have read and heard about too many issues with them.

orly57 · #6 02-12-2019, 09:29 AM

Yeah, I was kind of laughing to myself as I read the posts. PWCC is like the new Dick Towle of the board: a bunch of people use them, but few will admit to it. Not sure why.
Anyway, I totally agree with you that they absolutely need to get graded. I would bet that pwcc would send them for grading at their cost (with potentially more favorable PSA grades since they come from PWCC). If not, then he can find someone who will. Where I disagree with you is the suggestion that he sell on his own. You know how big a gap there can be between two cards OF THE SAME GRADE. A novice doesn’t know that the psa 3 that pops up on vcp isn’t as well centered or registered as his. He may assume all 3’s are the same and get ripped off. It’s too much for a novice to grasp in a short time. Also, any dealer who buys the collection will probably take more than 20% off.
A lot is being made of the 10-20% that an auction house will take, but the reality is that if he went on the BST, he would be offered 10-20% less anyway. Rarely does anyone offer full price on BST. In fact, that is one of the benefits of BST: the seller makes a quicker sale (or avoids eBay fees) and the buyer doesn’t deal with BP (or paying the seller’s ebay fees). In short, I’m not sure that the 10-20% can ever truly be avoided...especially by a guy who simply doesn’t know enough about the hobby to asses a proper value. If he’s going to lose that 10-20% anyway, he might as well have someone do all the work for him. The evaluation that needs to be done is: where can he maximize his profit? Where are the most eyeballs going to see the cards? I think his cards are perfect for PWCC. I think REA or HA may be overkill on these particular cards. Having have said all that, as I wrote earlier, I would expect for them to cover grading costs. If they won’t, then he should find someone who will.
As a side-note, i too think that he should keep a couple for sentimental reasons.

chalupacollects · #7 02-12-2019, 11:38 AM

Did someone say he would get a better price from a dealer? With little experience in the hobby?

Orioles1954 · #8 02-12-2019, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by orly57

Yeah, I was kind of laughing to myself as I read the posts. PWCC is like the new Dick Towle of the board: a bunch of people use them, but few will admit to it. Not sure why.
Anyway, I totally agree with you that they absolutely need to get graded. I would bet that pwcc would send them for grading at their cost (with potentially more favorable PSA grades since they come from PWCC). If not, then he can find someone who will. Where I disagree with you is the suggestion that he sell on his own. You know how big a gap there can be between two cards OF THE SAME GRADE. A novice doesn�t know that the psa 3 that pops up on vcp isn�t as well centered or registered as his. He may assume all 3�s are the same and get ripped off. It�s too much for a novice to grasp in a short time. Also, any dealer who buys the collection will probably take more than 20% off.
A lot is being made of the 10-20% that an auction house will take, but the reality is that if he went on the BST, he would be offered 10-20% less anyway. Rarely does anyone offer full price on BST. In fact, that is one of the benefits of BST: the seller makes a quicker sale (or avoids eBay fees) and the buyer doesn�t deal with BP (or paying the seller�s ebay fees). In short, I�m not sure that the 10-20% can ever truly be avoided...especially by a guy who simply doesn�t know enough about the hobby to asses a proper value. If he�s going to lose that 10-20% anyway, he might as well have someone do all the work for him. The evaluation that needs to be done is: where can he maximize his profit? Where are the most eyeballs going to see the cards? I think his cards are perfect for PWCC. I think REA or HA may be overkill on these particular cards. Having have said all that, as I wrote earlier, I would expect for them to cover grading costs. If they won�t, then he should find someone who will.
As a side-note, i too think that he should keep a couple for sentimental reasons.

Well said.

Vintageclout · #9 02-12-2019, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by orly57

13 pages of comments, and I only counted one mention of PWCC. I wonder how PWCC manages to survive when almost none of the members on this board consign with them. So weird. Wonder where they get all those cards from.

Because maybe, just maybe, the hobby extends far beyond the 54 board!!! 2 auction houses were mentioned in 13 pages (REA & LOTG) and I don�t see Heritage, MLI, Goldin, PWCC, SCP, Huggins & Scott, Probstein, etc. hurting because their names were not mentioned.

orly57 · #10 02-12-2019, 03:03 PM

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Because maybe, just maybe, the hobby extends far beyond the 54 board!!! 2 auction houses were mentioned in 13 pages (REA & LOTG) and I don�t see Heritage, MLI, Goldin, PWCC, SCP, Huggins & Scott, Probstein, etc. hurting because their names were not mentioned.

Maybe, just maybe, you shouldn�t take things so literally. Obviously PWCC has consignors that aren�t on this board. My bigger point is that there are a ton of guys on here that use PWCC, but won�t recommend it aloud for some reason. I found it interesting that a company that does so much volume, and is such a big player in the market would only get one mention. Maybe it was just me who thought that PWCC was a pretty easy choice for someone in his position. Or maybe I�m the only one who voiced it. I don�t know, but I�m not really sure what your problem is with my comment.

Vintageclout · #11 02-12-2019, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by orly57

Maybe, just maybe, you shouldn�t take things so literally. Obviously PWCC has consignors that aren�t on this board. My bigger point is that there are a ton of guys on here that use PWCC, but won�t recommend it aloud for some reason. I found it interesting that a company that does so much volume, and is such a big player in the market would only get one mention. Maybe it was just me who thought that PWCC was a pretty easy choice for someone in his position. Or maybe I�m the only one who voiced it. I don�t know, but I�m not really sure what your problem is with my comment.

No problem. Just stating the FACTS. It�s that simple.

x2drich2000 · #12 02-12-2019, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by orly57

Maybe, just maybe, you shouldn�t take things so literally. Obviously PWCC has consignors that aren�t on this board. My bigger point is that there are a ton of guys on here that use PWCC, but won�t recommend it aloud for some reason. I found it interesting that a company that does so much volume, and is such a big player in the market would only get one mention. Maybe it was just me who thought that PWCC was a pretty easy choice for someone in his position. Or maybe I�m the only one who voiced it. I don�t know, but I�m not really sure what your problem is with my comment.

Orlando, I don't have an issue with PWCC as a company, however, the reason I would not recommend PWCC in this situation is that the collection as a whole is not made up of higher end, $100+ cards. In this case, the OP will need to know what cards to send to PWCC, a knowledge that he does not seem to have. Sending groups of 50's and 60's commons or semi-stars to PWCC generally isn't practical unless they are coming back 8's, 9's and 10's, and even then, it may not be worth it. In this case, the OP really needs someone to sit down with him and walk him through what he has and the best way to split it up. I doubt PWCC is going to take the time to do that with the whole collection. In addition, if you take the keys of the collection out, I'd imagine very few auction houses would want to deal with just raw partial sets from the 50's and 60's so you'll lose their interest as well.

DJ

CW · #13 02-12-2019, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by orly57

I found it interesting that a company that does so much volume, and is such a big player in the market would only get one mention. Maybe it was just me who thought that PWCC was a pretty easy choice for someone in his position. Or maybe I�m the only one who voiced it.

PWCC would be a fine choice for someone who is knowledgeable about the hobby or already has their cards graded.

For a novice collector with raw cards, with some being lower value, I think they would get better guidance and overall service from an auction house compared to a high volume eBay seller like PWCC. Auction houses are more accustomed to holding a seller's hand during the process. That is the reason why I did not mention PWCC in my initial advice.

Leon · #14 02-15-2019, 08:01 AM

For the record I always recommend companies who advertise on Net54 and support us. PWCC and LOTG are 2 great ones and would do very well with this stuff. I just hope he picks a good advertiser here.

And to the OP I am here to help, in any way I can, if you need it. Good luck!!

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Originally Posted by Vintageclout

Because maybe, just maybe, the hobby extends far beyond the 54 board!!! 2 auction houses were mentioned in 13 pages (REA & LOTG) and I don�t see Heritage, MLI, Goldin, PWCC, SCP, Huggins & Scott, Probstein, etc. hurting because their names were not mentioned.

Skatehabitat24 · #15 02-12-2019, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Yastrzemski Sports

Hi. I am here. If he says they were bought before he was born I am assuming 20+ years ago - probably sometime in the 80s or 90s. I have only had a store here since 2006. I had family in Cooperstown and spent a couple of weeks here every summer but I was a kid myself and don’t remember seeing anything like this. Probably likely that his dad picked up some items here and at the Albany shows at the Polish Community Center and he also mentioned auctions. But it’s before my time to know exactly where they came from.
I did send him a message with an offer to help if he was in the area. I carry card savers and can help him get a submission ready for psa, to determine which are appropriate for grading, give an estimate of value, etc. I haven’t heard back but the offer is still out there.

Thank you very much for the offer. I really appreciate it. I have been in your store before when I visited last visited the Hall. Great place. Im still deciding and working on what I want to do. Ill be down again to visit Copperstown with or without the cards most likely this summer! Such an awesome place.

Adding a few more photos (still shitty sorry) Going to be continuing to take better photos as I transfer the cards, Ive been very busy at work and doing projects around my house, but I will continue to try to update when I can, thank you guys.

Yastrzemski Sports · #16 02-14-2019, 03:50 AM

Thanks for stopping in. If you want help judging what you have I would be happy to help. This is going to require some time. If you want to bring in cards we can arrange a time - but I would not recommend bringing them here in summer. Especially for some of the high quality stuff here. Way too busy any too many people around for me to dedicate the appropriate amount of time and attention to it. Any of the other 9 months are fine. I am in Albany usually at least once a month and can meet you there if you would like. See you on the next trip.

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Originally Posted by Skatehabitat24

Thank you very much for the offer. I really appreciate it. I have been in your store before when I visited last visited the Hall. Great place. Im still deciding and working on what I want to do. Ill be down again to visit Copperstown with or without the cards most likely this summer! Such an awesome place.

Adding a few more photos (still shitty sorry) Going to be continuing to take better photos as I transfer the cards, Ive been very busy at work and doing projects around my house, but I will continue to try to update when I can, thank you guys.

luciobar1980 · #17 02-14-2019, 05:57 PM

Of course I haven't examined every card in detail, but overall these give me the impression of being authentic. Just seems like a slightly random collection that a father would have, with organic and varying states of wear.

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