Machado to Padres

packs · #1 02-21-2019, 12:50 PM

I just don't know why the Padres aren't focused on starting pitching. It seems short sighted to invest in third base and outfield when you haven't had an ace in a decade plus. A host of top of the line pitching is scheduled to hit the market next year (de Grom, Sale, Hamels, Porcello, Bumgarner, etc.) that it would have made more sense for them to spend in 2020 than it did wasting 300 mil on a non-factor like Machado. He doesn't put them any closer to winning than they were without him.

Yastrzemski Sports · #2 02-21-2019, 12:56 PM

Agreed. Pitching wins. You need bats but all the bats in the world won�t help if you have no pitching. Machado will help San Diego as much as he helped Baltimore. Maybe 2-4 more wins.

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I just don't know why the Padres aren't focused on starting pitching. It seems short sighted to invest in third base and outfield when you haven't had an ace in a decade plus. A host of top of the line pitching is scheduled to hit the market next year (de Grom, Sale, Hamels, Porcello, Bumgarner, etc.) that it would have made more sense for them to spend in 2020 than it did wasting 300 mil on a non-factor like Machado. He doesn't put them any closer to winning than they were without him.

packs · #3 02-21-2019, 12:59 PM

If they were on the cusp last year it would make sense that Machado could be the it factor they need. But they lost almost 100 games. So what are they going to lose this year, 90 instead?

Wouldn't it have made more sense and been significantly cheaper if they signed both Gio Gonzalez and Dallas Keuchel?

Peter_Spaeth · #4 02-21-2019, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Yastrzemski Sports

Agreed. Pitching wins. You need bats but all the bats in the world won’t help if you have no pitching. Machado will help San Diego as much as he helped Baltimore. Maybe 2-4 more wins.

How did the 2018 Mets do with DeGrom and Syndergaard?

packs · #5 02-21-2019, 02:50 PM

You definitely need a little bit of everything. My point was I think the Padres already have / will have their bats. The pitching is a glaring hole.

Peter_Spaeth · #6 02-21-2019, 02:58 PM

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You definitely need a little bit of everything. My point was I think the Padres already have / will have their bats. The pitching is a glaring hole.

Supposedly they have good up and coming pitching from the farm system, but who knows.

barrysloate · #7 02-21-2019, 04:12 PM

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How did the 2018 Mets do with DeGrom and Syndergaard?

Tell me about it.

KCRfan1 · #8 02-21-2019, 05:21 PM

The Mets pen was awful in 2018. Couple that with the overall health of the Mets SP and innings limits, the pen need to be lights out.

Pitching was key for the Mets in 2018, not the bats.

Yastrzemski Sports · #9 02-21-2019, 05:32 PM

When I said you need pitching - I mean a lot of it. Overall they were 16th in the league in era. Their bullpen stinks. They were also 24th in runs scored. So there�s that.

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How did the 2018 Mets do with DeGrom and Syndergaard?

Peter_Spaeth · #10 02-21-2019, 05:45 PM

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When I said you need pitching - I mean a lot of it. Overall they were 16th in the league in era. Their bullpen stinks. They were also 24th in runs scored. So there�s that.

I did not realize they had nothing after the two starters. Still, as to your point, I don't see it necessarily as a bad move to pick up an elite slugger.

Yastrzemski Sports · #11 02-21-2019, 09:48 PM

10 year contracts in baseball do not work out well for the team. Especially at $30 mil per year. By the end of these monster contracts the teams are fighting luxury tax and trying to unload the guy to whoever will take him (see Ellsbury). Not to mention that Fernando Tatis Jr (padres #1 prospect, #2 overall in baseball) plays SS where Machado plans to play.

Machado never struck me as the elite, franchise, once in a generation player who would be worth $300 mil. For someone known as a slugger he has never hit .300, never hit 40 hr and this was his first 100 rbi season. He was never an mvp finalist. He�s also leaving a very hitter friendly ballpark. He�s a very good player but I wouldn�t put the teams next decade in his hands.

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I did not realize they had nothing after the two starters. Still, as to your point, I don't see it necessarily as a bad move to pick up an elite slugger.

Peter_Spaeth · #12 02-21-2019, 10:37 PM

He's averaging about 35 HR for the last 4 years. That's pretty good in my book. 1000 hits at age 26. 90+ RBI on an awful team. I agree on the 10 years, other than Trout there's nobody I would sign for that long.

Jim65 · #13 02-22-2019, 04:15 AM

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How did the 2018 Mets do with DeGrom and Syndergaard?

Much better than if they didn't have them, hitting and the bullpen was the Mets problems, not deGrom and Syndergaard or Wheeler for that matter.

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