Best Long Term Investment for $1000???

jason.1969 · #1 03-27-2019, 11:01 AM

I see Mantle growing less and less exciting to the next generation of collectors.

I won't confuse my experience with scientific rigor, but most of the guys I know in their 20s and 30s put Mantle a lot farther down on their want lists than Aaron, Clemente, and Jackie Robinson. Mantle is viewed as overpriced and it is thought that the main reason his cards are so expensive is that "his cards are the most valuable."

There is obvious circularity to the reasoning that is consistent with a bubble prone to bursting...kind of an Emperor's New Clothes moment.

Obviously Mantle is a legendary and iconic player and his 18 WS HR is a record that may never be approached. Still, if we look at several of the reasons for his meteoric rise in the Hobby many are generational.

I would be zero surprised if Mantle prices 20 years from now are lower than they are today. I'd put my money on Jackie whose legacy will always remain critical, relevant, and larger than baseball.

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dio · #2 03-27-2019, 11:26 AM

Most Iconic, you said it.

From what i see, as people get older, they want older stuff
todays 20-30 yrs old collecting modern, but when they're 40-50 they'll start collecting vintage.

how many of us ever seen honus wagner and babe ruth play?

jason.1969 · #3 03-27-2019, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by dio

Most Iconic, you said it.

From what i see, as people get older, they want older stuff

todays 20-30 yrs old collecting modern, but when they're 40-50 they'll start collecting vintage.

how many of us ever seen honus wagner and babe ruth play?

Except I didn't say "most iconic." Just iconic. I believe this distinction will become magnified over time.

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JunkyJoe · #4 03-28-2019, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dio

Most Iconic, you said it.

From what i see, as people get older, they want older stuff
todays 20-30 yrs old collecting modern, but when they're 40-50 they'll start collecting vintage.

how many of us ever seen honus wagner and babe ruth play?

Great point, and just as some of us have never seen Mantle, Aaron, Mays, Koufax (... .... .......) play. Those who love the game will want to know the game's history at some point. Kids today who are fixated with all the silly things in modern pop culture will look back and laugh about it in years to come, just as some now might look back and laugh about the days when nothing in the world was more important than cruising to the rock concert in the Trans Am, with a good buzz.

And to the original thread question, I don't think you can go wrong with any graded cards from the Postwar era, of the various hall of fame players that we often talk about here (see my list above, just to name a few). Some collectors prefer higher grades, some prefer lower to mid grades. Collect what you like and can afford. If it's late-50's Topps PSA 4 or 5 Mantles, centered or not, it's all but guaranteed there will be collectors interested in those same cards 20 or 30 years from now (IMO).

dio · #5 03-28-2019, 01:18 PM

And overtime the quantity of available vintage card will decrease due to
1) dog ate it
2) flooding/hurricane
3) fire
4) wife got mad , throw it into trash
etc....

jchcollins · #6 03-28-2019, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by dio

4) wife got mad , throw it into trash

etc....

Yep.

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jchcollins · #7 03-28-2019, 01:45 PM

If wrong, I will be happy but I don't see Mantle going down anytime soon if ever. Have DiMaggio, Gehrig or Ruth cards cooled off?

swabie2424 · #8 03-27-2019, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jason.1969

I won't confuse my experience with scientific rigor, but most of the guys I know in their 20s and 30s put Mantle a lot farther down on their want lists than Aaron, Clemente, and Jackie Robinson.

Enjoyed your post.

But please allow me to respectfully add one counterpoint to your thoughts. Mantle has one big thing going for him in terms of value that Aaron, Clemente and Jackie don't have... he's an iconic member of the New York Yankees. This must be factored in when considering the "demand" portion of the long term equation. The Yankees are the Yankees. And Mantle is on Yankees Mount Rushmore with Ruth, Gehrig and Dimaggio. There's exponentially more Yankees collectors on the planet and will continue to be unless they go through a huge, multi-multi-decades long organizational slump.

Let me say I think Clemente and Jackie are awesome long term values

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