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[Orioles1954]

Only people I know actively collecting or submitting to SGC are pre-war collectors. Very small niche of the hobby.

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by Orioles1954

Only people I know actively collecting or submitting to SGC are pre-war collectors. Very small niche of the hobby.

And having said that, here's the irony about that....You can buy T206 SGC 84's for $350-375 range....PSA 7's are more like $525-675....I think that says it all....

[Bram99]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

And having said that, here's the irony about that....You can buy T206 SGC 84's for $350-375 range....PSA 7's are more like $525-675....I think that says it all....

I think we have turned this into a PSA vs. SGC thread and I didn't mean to. I do like to root for the underdog and would love there to be more than one reliable authority to compete for the grading business on vintage cards. I am rooting for an upstart if SGC can't recover.

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by Bram99

I think we have turned this into a PSA vs. SGC thread and I didn't mean to. I do like to root for the underdog and would love there to be more than one reliable authority to compete for the grading business on vintage cards. I am rooting for an upstart if SGC can't recover.

Tony, I hear you.....But, if SGC doesn't rebound, the odds of another grading company are pretty slim. I'm not sure that all of SGC's recent multiple holder and grading changes was the best thing....Joe Orlando I'm sure is loving all of this....

[Orioles1954]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

Tony, I hear you.....But, if SGC doesn't rebound, the odds of another grading company are pretty slim. I'm not sure that all of SGC's recent multiple holder and grading changes was the best thing....Joe Orlando I'm sure is loving all of this....

From what I understand SGC is now also a very small operation basically running on a skeleton crew. BGS is giving PSA a good run for modern cards...especially with their "black label" concept which rolled out in 2015.

[T206Collector]

If PSA is the only company doing business, you can expect their quality to decline like any monopoly with significant barriers to entry.

[ValKehl]

Originally Posted by T206Collector

If PSA is the only company doing business, you can expect their quality to decline like any monopoly with significant barriers to entry.

And prices to increase!

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by ValKehl

And prices to increase!

Yes, that too!

[hcv123]

Did anyone catch lot 226 - 1962 Venezuelan Leaders card with Mays that closed at 23K!!! I am first in line to exclaim what an anomaly the card is in an 8.5 grade - absolutely stunning - but 23K!!?? for a leaders card.


Not much to add to the SGC-PSA conversation. I think SGC are more consistent(both companies with much imperfection in the consistency department) in their grading. I have always liked their holders better. Both due to the registry and the resale market, when I buy graded cards I usually buy PSA. That said I also "buy the card, not the holder" and have bid on plenty of SGC graded cards (most of which have gone higher than I wanted to).