SGC to PSA Crossover Submission Results

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

Maybe this is a dumb question, but I never submit, let alone seek to cross-over: I assume they still charge you even if they won’t give you the minimum grade requested, and thus don’t slab the submission? If so, is it full freight even where you are seeking to cross a $20k+ card and thus paying a ton in fees?

I don’t believe you pay unless they slab.

[Rhotchkiss]

Thanks Jeff. Frankly that seems a bit odd, as they have to review the card in order to make the determination that it won’t grade and would be allowing free Hail Mary Cross-over or upgrade attempts and encouraging same, but you certainly may be right. If they do not charge, I may attempt a few cross overs!

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

Thanks Jeff. Frankly that seems a bit odd, as they have to review the card in order to make the determination that it won’t grade and would be allowing free Hail Mary Cross-over or upgrade attempts and encouraging same, but you certainly may be right. If they do not charge, I may attempt a few cross overs!

lol so you wait four months to learn they won’t slab your card — and pay full price. Jesus H.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by calvindog

lol so you wait four months to learn they won’t slab your card — and pay full price. Jesus H.

Ah, but the joy at the end of the rainbow if any of your cards come back in that fresh lighthouse holder...

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by calvindog

lol so you wait four months to learn they won’t slab your card — and pay full price. Jesus H.

Well, in this case the submitter told them to not reholder unless they met his minimum grade. Not sure what your complaint is. PSA may have considered the others trimmed or altered; they are therefore worth more slabbed with a number grade by SGC.

[canjond]

FWIW - I’m sure there are countless similar stories for a lot of the grading companies, but I have a ‘51 Bowman Mantle that was very nice. It was graded a GAI 6 (original slab). I brought it to the National last year and submitted it to PSA in the GAI holder with a minimum grade of 5. Got it back not crossed over for failing to meet the minimum grade. After thinking it over, I decided to crack it and submit it raw. PSA graded it a 6.

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by canjond

FWIW - I’m sure there are countless similar stories for a lot of the grading companies, but I have a ‘51 Bowman Mantle that was very nice. It was graded a GAI 6 (original slab). I brought it to the National last year and submitted it to PSA in the GAI holder with a minimum grade of 5. Got it back not crossed over for failing to meet the minimum grade. After thinking it over, I decided to crack it and submit it raw. PSA graded it a 6.

This is something I keep hearing from both dealers and other collectors. Glad your story has a happy ending despite paying 2 times for grading. Big price difference between the GAI holder and the PSA so you did well.

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by Lorewalker

This is something I keep hearing from both dealers and other collectors. Glad your story has a happy ending despite paying 2 times for grading. Big price difference between the GAI holder and the PSA so you did well.

Let’s see if I’ve got this right.

Mantra #1 - Buy the card, not the holder.

Mantra #2 - Sell the holder, not the card.

Mantra #3 - There is no hypocrisy in the hobby.

[MikeGarcia]

Originally Posted by calvindog

I don’t believe you pay unless they slab.

..-- Joe O. business model : you pay...--

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[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by calvindog

I don’t believe you pay unless they slab.

I believe the opposite is true. You pay full price for a cross over or bump attempt regardless of the result.

[swarmee]

You definitely pay the grading fee unless they seem it Minsize or factory miscut if it doesn't cross.
And if you look at the OP Diamond Stars, most of them bumped a grade. Congrats!

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by swarmee

You definitely pay the grading fee unless they seem it Minsize or factory miscut if it doesn't cross.
And if you look at the OP Diamond Stars, most of them bumped a grade. Congrats!

The way I read it, the Diamond Stars bumped down not up.

I’m probably reading it wrong though.

[pokerplyr80]

To the OP, I'm curious did any of your successful cross attempts receive a grade higher than your minimum allowed?

[nolemmings]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

To the OP, I'm curious did any of your successful cross attempts receive a grade higher than your minimum allowed?

I believe he identified his minimum grade in his post, and some of the Diamond Stars surpassed it, although none received a bump over their original SGC grades.

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

I believe he identified his minimum grade in his post, and some of the Diamond Stars surpassed it, although none received a bump over their original SGC grades.

Thanks, I missed that. Will have to pay closer attention next time.