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Old 05-11-2019, 08:54 PM
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Obviously anyone could sell any card at any time. My point is that PWCC consistently brings nice cards to the hobby. It’s quite frequent actually. Just like REA brings vintage memorabilia of epic proportions. This helps collectors like me. Just my opinion. Wanted to say something positive on these boards for a change. Happy Saturday all 🌞
I like the positivity, Martin. I would make the point that it's the Consignors who choose to bring these cards to market, however, through PWCC. These are cards that are already "in the hobby", with PWCC just acting as a conduit for the sale.
Although I do kind of like the idea of PWCC staff roving around the country, raiding estate sales and Ohio attics looking for the next big find...

Personally, I agree that the quality of cards offered via PWCC is high. Over the last year, though, the avidity with which folks seem to be bidding on every single PWCC item is noticeable. It's been enough to discourage me from buying as much with PWCC. I'm spending far less with them now than I ever would have imagined prior. I also thought the 'HE' designation was gimmicky enough when it came out, and so now with the 3 new designations it's gone from gimmicky to mildly annoying to me. Just my two-and-a-half cents


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Old 05-11-2019, 09:26 PM
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I like the positivity, Martin. I would make the point that it's the Consignors who choose to bring these cards to market, however, through PWCC. These are cards that are already "in the hobby", with PWCC just acting as a conduit for the sale.
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Thanks Jason. In this scenario I like the old saying “don’t hate the player, hate the game”. If these consigners would just post on net54 “fst” (thanks Frank) I wouldn’t lose sleep with PWCC guilt.
But honestly I like PWCC.
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Old 05-11-2019, 09:41 PM
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Thanks Jason. In this scenario I like the old saying “don’t hate the player, hate the game”. If these consigners would just post on net54 “fst” (thanks Frank) I wouldn’t lose sleep with PWCC guilt.
But honestly I like PWCC.
Did you like the altered 52T Mantle with no disclosure?

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Old 05-11-2019, 09:56 PM
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I followed the discussion on all the usual platforms. It appears PWCC fully acknowledged the potential changes that card has gone through. Not sure if the buyer knows anything with all the exposure and talk. Will be interesting to see if they ever come forward. Otherwise the card stays in PC until the next episode.

As a collector I stay in my lane. But I’m experienced enough to realize this is bigger than social media exposure and pressure to do the right thing by PWCC. To me the end game is with PSA. They will forever be liable for every single graded card out in circulation. It is the nature of their business right? The big question is will PSA do the right thing? I am almost willing to bet my bottom dollar if the new owner lawyered up they could bring a good case against PSA’s grade guarantee policy and come out with some 💵
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Old 05-11-2019, 09:58 PM
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I followed the discussion on all the usual platforms. It appears PWCC fully acknowledged the potential changes that card has gone through. Not sure if the buyer knows anything with all the exposure and talk. Will be interesting to see if they ever come forward. Otherwise the card stays in PC until the next episode.

As a collector I stay in my lane. But I’m experienced enough to realize this is bigger than social media exposure and pressure to do the right thing by PWCC. To me the end game is with PSA. They will forever be liable for every single graded card out in circulation. It is the nature of their business right? The big question is will PSA do the right thing? I am almost willing to bet my bottom dollar if the new owner lawyered up they could bring a good case against PSA’s grade guarantee policy and come out with some ��
PWCC refused to disclose anything in their auction description, despite clear evidence the card was altered, and offered a whole slew of nonsense to justify it. That, to me, is the takeaway from the fiasco. I can't spin it any other way, sorry.
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I'm sure all blind collectors appreciate PWCC's labeling. Perhaps they can expand the service to dating apps.
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Old 05-11-2019, 10:19 PM
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I'm sure all blind collectors appreciate PWCC's labeling. Perhaps they can expand the service to dating apps.
Do their stickers have Braille? Because I think the blind would appreciate knowing that their graded card has extreme eye appeal.

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Is there a legitimate purpose to this thread other than the counter all the negative pwcc threads lately? Why couldn’t this pick up been posted in the pick up thread? Pwcc isn’t the only company with ‘quality’ cards. I get like three catalogs a month filled with them from auction companies.
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Old 05-12-2019, 07:33 AM
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Just my 2 cents - I think novice collectors hear the "Buy the Card - Not the Holder" schpiel over and over and over. I don't think that it sets in tho until much later down the "collecting" path after carefully studying many cards in hand. I know it took me a long time to get that thru my head.

I would suspect that many untrained eyes would automatically speculate this T206 as at least a 7 were it not already in a holder. My 1st glance at this card was a "wow" and then I automatically assumed "crease" because of the holder.

PWCC's target customer consists of way more than us on the boards and as such I don't think their "HE" designations (or whatever else) is necessarily such a bad thing.
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Is there a legitimate purpose to this thread other than the counter all the negative pwcc threads lately? Why couldn’t this pick up been posted in the pick up thread? Pwcc isn’t the only company with ‘quality’ cards. I get like three catalogs a month filled with them from auction companies.
Define “legitimate” first.
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Old 05-12-2019, 11:36 AM
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Is there a legitimate purpose to this thread other than the counter all the negative pwcc threads lately? Why couldn’t this pick up been posted in the pick up thread? Pwcc isn’t the only company with ‘quality’ cards. I get like three catalogs a month filled with them from auction companies.
David, no legitimate purpose other than to take a stance that there are Net54 members who do purchase from PWCC and are comfortable with it.
I’m willing to bet many members here just stay quiet about it because of the social justice warriors turned hobby police is in full force harassing anyone with differing opinions as if this were an Antifa rally.

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