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pokerplyr80 · #1 05-15-2019, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by calvindog

What about building a business without looking into the legality of conspiring to defraud people by knowingly selling altered cards?

Those are strong allegations that I haven't seen proof of. If you know something I'm unaware of I'd be interested to hear or see what it is.

And to Scott I don't think it's a stretch to assume due diligence was done.

Aquarian Sports Cards · #2 05-15-2019, 01:31 AM

I agree, I would assume so, but I don't KNOW.

Peter_Spaeth · #3 05-15-2019, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

Those are strong allegations that I haven't seen proof of. If you know something I'm unaware of I'd be interested to hear or see what it is.

And to Scott I don't think it's a stretch to assume due diligence was done.

Have you read all the threads on Blowout identifying specific altered cards, and PWCC's own statement here that they will now "cease" doing business with card doctors? What is the necessary implication of that statement?

Edited to add 93 more today
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1293843

pokerplyr80 · #4 05-15-2019, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Have you read all the threads on Blowout identifying specific altered cards, and PWCC's own statement here that they will now "cease" doing business with card doctors? What is the necessary implication of that statement?

Edited to add 93 more today
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1293843

Not all, I don't go to blowout often. I didn't see any evidence that pwcc knowingly sold altered cards there though. I don't think refusing to accept consignments from known or suspected card doctors will change much.

Hey jack, send this card in to pwcc for me. They banned my name or address. Not a hard thing to get around.

irv · #5 05-15-2019, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

Not all, I don't go to blowout often. I didn't see any evidence that pwcc knowingly sold altered cards there though. I don't think refusing to accept consignments from known or suspected card doctors will change much.

Hey jack, send this card in to pwcc for me. They banned my name or address. Not a hard thing to get around.

Just posted from Brent himself. https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1290614

These threads continue to be appreciated and we are grateful for the research.

While the original subject of this thread, the '52 Mantle, is an example of how a card can, in our opinion, be conserved, there have been a number of cards identified on this thread that do fit the definition of alteration.

Thanks to these important efforts, I will say that the submitters of the items that have been identified as altered are prohibited from participating in the PWCC Marketplace moving forward based on the terms of our Marketplace Tenets. We are also working with the grading companies to address the issue according to our Tenets.

Please don't hesitate to contact me at betsy@pwccmarketplace.com with any specific questions or comments.

Peter_Spaeth · #6 05-15-2019, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

Not all, I don't go to blowout often. I didn't see any evidence that pwcc knowingly sold altered cards there though. I don't think refusing to accept consignments from known or suspected card doctors will change much.

Hey jack, send this card in to pwcc for me. They banned my name or address. Not a hard thing to get around.

Honestly, if you have blinders on, I am not wasting time talking to you Jesse. PWCC ADMITTED it. End of discussion. Have a nice day.

pokerplyr80 · #7 05-15-2019, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Honestly, if you have blinders on, I am not wasting time talking to you Jesse. PWCC ADMITTED it. End of discussion. Have a nice day.

That may be true, but I didn't see that post.

Peter_Spaeth · #8 05-15-2019, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

That may be true, but I didn't see that post.

Then perhaps you should read what's out there before making pronouncements about the state of the evidence?

calvindog · #9 05-15-2019, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Then perhaps you should read what's out there before making pronouncements about the state of the evidence?

Why? If you don't read it that means it never happened.

pokerplyr80 · #10 05-15-2019, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Then perhaps you should read what's out there before making pronouncements about the state of the evidence?

I believe my only pronouncement was that I hadn't seen any evidence, not exactly a groundbreaking revelation.

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