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Old 05-29-2019, 04:55 PM
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Ummm...yes, you do. You just don't want to admit it.
David, do you believe David Hall, Joe Orlando and/or Steve Sloan have overtly or tacitly approved the knowing grading of altered cards, or do you think some submitters have a grader on the inside?

Let's flesh out your conspiracy theory.
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Old 05-29-2019, 05:05 PM
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David, do you believe David Hall, Joe Orlando and/or Steve Sloan have overtly or tacitly approved the knowing grading of altered cards, or do you think some submitters have a grader on the inside?

Let's flesh out your conspiracy theory.
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Old 05-29-2019, 05:07 PM
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The latter.
At this point, it truly would not surprise me. In a way it would be a relief, as it would show the company as a whole wasn't as awful at this as it now is starting to seem.
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At this point, it truly would not surprise me. In a way it would be a relief, as it would show the company as a whole wasn't as awful at this as it now is starting to seem.
I doubt it's just one person inside. If it was, how do they assure that their inside guy gets their submission. If anything, it has to be at least two, one in receiving and one grader.

And if there's a pattern of one person always doing one customers submissions, what does it say about their internal security if that's not noticed?
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I doubt it's just one person inside. If it was, how do they assure that their inside guy gets their submission. If anything, it has to be at least two, one in receiving and one grader.

And if there's a pattern of one person always doing one customers submissions, what does it say about their internal security if that's not noticed?
Don't they do grading at shows? It could be the same guy.
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Don't they do grading at shows? It could be the same guy.
I don't know about PSA, but when I had some done at a show by SGC the grader/graders weren't in the booth, but somewhere else. I never got to see them work, or even see them at all.
The handful of expensive stuff I had done rather than mail it was all very simple gradings. A few "A" cards, a 10/1, and one that got a pretty generous 40.

Some of the submissions shown on BO are pretty big, 100+ cards. Do they do subs that big at a show, or just accept them for later grading?
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Old 05-30-2019, 10:44 AM
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Interesting quote from Betsy on Sports Card Radio's love piece. Apologies if already posted.

PWCC Director of Communications Betsy Huigens wrote in an email to Sports Card Radio that "We are very aware of who Gary Moser is."

The same was true 10 years ago, and perhaps longer.
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