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Old 05-29-2019, 07:22 PM
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I support this sentiment. I certainly won't be bidding on any more PWCC listings and I won't be buying any more PSA or BGS (let's not forget BGS has a huge part in this too) graded items. I guess I'll have to wait for a real TPG competitor to arrive and have my PC stuff regraded someday. Hopefully none are altered, but that's now unlikely. I don't have a VCP sub, but I wouldn't do any business with anyone with ties to this situation (I don't have business interactions with Leon, so don't even try it), especially after seeing the proprietor's deflection attempts. Playing dumb doesn't work. You know darn well what's happening within your own business, down to every little detail.
you my friends are absolutely correct. I won't be bidding on any baseball cards PERIOD
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Old 05-29-2019, 07:29 PM
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you my friends are absolutely correct. I won't be bidding on any baseball cards PERIOD
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Old 05-29-2019, 07:38 PM
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Meanwhile......Brent and R.P. are laughing all the way to the bank...
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Meanwhile......Brent and R.P. are laughing all the way to the bank...
For now. So too were Bill and Doug, I suspect.
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For now. So too were Bill and Doug, I suspect.
With the slap on the wrist Bill got I bet he is still laughing, I know I would be.
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Meanwhile......Brent and R.P. are laughing all the way to the bank...
No one is laughing.
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No one is laughing.
I'm laughing.

I find this entire thread incredibly funny.

The people who get paid for their opinions are just going to slide down in their cellar and wait for the storm to blow over, then back to business as usual.

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Old 05-29-2019, 09:17 PM
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I'm not laughing but I am smiling because I have known for 10 years or more that this stuff was going on and I never thought it would be exposed so dramatically.

Good for the hobby my body part.
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I'm not laughing but I am smiling because I have known for 10 years or more that this stuff was going on and I never thought it would be exposed so dramatically.
Me too. Many did. But the depth and breadth is more astonishing than I had anticipated it would be, to say the least.
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I'm not laughing but I am smiling because I have known for 10 years or more that this stuff was going on and I never thought it would be exposed so dramatically.
You have only been collecting for 10 years.

I have been collecting for almost 35 years now and found out about the shady side very early on.
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I'm laughing.

I find this entire thread incredibly funny.

The people who get paid for their opinions are just going to slide down in their cellar and wait for the storm to blow over, then back to business as usual.

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Um, I wasn't referring to the peanut gallery. More like the people in the soup.
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Old 05-29-2019, 09:39 PM
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Um, I wasn't referring to the peanut gallery. More like the people in the soup.
I'm not the peanut gallery.

I have plenty of soup, I just don't pay people for opinions on mine.

Everybody who has purchased a card in the last 20 years is effected by this issue, but anybody who is just now finding out about this issue must not have noticed that the very first paid opinion delivered by the king of all paid opinion givers was for a trimmed card.

It's all been down hill from there, and anybody who ever thought it wasn't, well, they were / are delusional.

EVERY card EVER given a paid opinion is suspect.

Break out those kitchen knives (at least that's what I use) and get back to where this hobby was when (many (most?) of us) started, and before it was hijacked.

Each and every one of us who has paid for an opinion is part of the problem.

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Will you be refraining from posting here?
Unfortunately, not
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Unfortunately, not
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