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Old 06-01-2019, 12:04 PM
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Nothing that a front page article in the SMR or Forbes wouldn't help fix.
Forbes lol yeah 100 times more likely another puff piece.
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Old 06-01-2019, 12:35 PM
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Forbes lol yeah 100 times more likely another puff piece.
I'm sure Forbes has at least one investigative journalist on staff. These articles basically write themselves.
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Old 06-01-2019, 12:41 PM
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I'm sure Forbes has at least one investigative journalist on staff. These articles basically write themselves.
Is the same publication that's been worshipping Brent going to trash him?
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Old 06-01-2019, 12:52 PM
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If you don't ask for it, it will never happen.
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Old 06-01-2019, 01:10 PM
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If you don't ask for it, it will never happen.
Fair point.
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Old 06-01-2019, 01:31 PM
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Too bad PSA didn't offer pedigree service early on. "Moser doctoring collection" on the label....
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Old 06-01-2019, 01:37 PM
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Too bad PSA didn't offer pedigree service early on. "Moser doctoring collection" on the label....
A PWCC sticker may be the equivalent. Just kidding. Sort of.
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PWCC sold the cards to collectors and targeted investors. I don't think it's up to the buyer to send their card back into PSA to determine if there was altering. Collectors might do this, but likely not the investors. Brent has an obligation to his customers to make them aware that their investments are tainted. Instead, he's trying to change the game with his conservation/restoration nonsense. When it's time for the investors to sell, they're going to get a fraction of what they put into it. If Brent was truly a victim here and not complicit he'd put out a statement that PWCC is actively researching the fraud and will be contacting buyers so they can seek a refund through PSA's guarantee.
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Is the same publication that's been worshipping Brent going to trash him?
That attitude is exactly why nothing will ever come of this. Your focus (and many others too) is only on Brent when there are multiple parties involved. If you put as much equal focus on the other parties as you did on Brent, someone might actually take you serious.

My 4:1 offer still stands. Anybody got balls?
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That attitude is exactly why nothing will ever come of this. Your focus (and many others too) is only on Brent when there are multiple parties involved. If you put as much equal focus on the other parties as you did on Brent, someone might actually take you serious.

My 4:1 offer still stands. Anybody got balls?
I have said lots about PSA including today that I am starting to think SGC grades better. Am I willing to speculate that card doctors are paying graders, not yet, although I have acknowledged the possibility.
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Forbes lol yeah 100 times more likely another puff piece.
A number Forbes online contributors were involved, not too long ago, in a payola scandal where the writers were taking money for favorable pieces and links to certain companies.

This is merely a statement of fact. Draw your own conclusions.

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A number Forbes online contributors were involved, not too long ago, in a payola scandal where the writers were taking money for favorable pieces and links to certain companies.

This is merely a statement of fact. Draw your own conclusions.

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Those "articles" always smelt like infomercials to me. ITS NOT SHOCKING!!!!
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Those "articles" always smelt like infomercials to me. ITS NOT SHOCKING!!!!
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Has anyone looked at the new round of T206s that PWCC listed on ebay? It appears that several of them have cert numbers that are very close to each other. My guess is that these cards are also doctored. Is PWCC really being this brazen to still sell doctored cards while they are being caught red handed?
I prefer "this stupid" to which my answer is yes, yes, they are this stupid.
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I prefer "this stupid" to which my answer is yes, yes, they are this stupid.
Newsflash!! Brent doesn't give a shit people....
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I saw this posted somewhere else but what is PSA's tolerance for size of the card? I think it was 1/32 or 1/64 of an inch but can't find it. Thanks.
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Newsflash!! Brent doesn't give a shit people....
It pains me to say it , but I agree with you on that.
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