Update: What would you do...

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by sportscardtheory

I have no idea if it is or isn't, but what does that even matter. Confidence that it's not is essentially nonexistent. Everything they sell is suspect if you have no certainty of it's origin. They destroyed their consumer confidence. To me, everything they sell is altered at this point. Not literally, but you get my drift.

It looks fine to me, t's only a scan I know but it sure looks like a pure crossover. I am the last person on this planet to defend Brent, but he shouldn't be obligated to refund for a card if in fact it is not altered.

[sportscardtheory]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

It looks fine to me, t's only a scan I know but it sure looks like a pure crossover. I am the last person on this planet to defend Brent, but he shouldn't be obligated to refund for a card if in fact it is not altered.

Yeah, and he can just send it in to PSA for a regrade if he's uncertain. lol Yikes.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by sportscardtheory

Yeah, and he can just send it in to PSA for a regrade if he's uncertain. lol Yikes.

He can also sell it. Yes the uncertainty sucks I am with you there. Or he could send to SGC. They have a crossover special apparently.

[T_Hamilton]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

He can also sell it. Yes the uncertainty sucks I am with you there. Or he could send to SGC. They have a crossover special apparently.

This just masks the problem in my opinion. I would hate to make this someone else's problem by submitting to SGC and then trying to resell.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by T_Hamilton

This just masks the problem in my opinion. I would hate to make this someone else's problem by submitting to SGC and then trying to resell.

Why do you think it's altered? And if you love the card why not ask SGC before you return it?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by T_Hamilton

This just masks the problem in my opinion. I would hate to make this someone else's problem by submitting to SGC and then trying to resell.

Brent is going to resell it anyhow, so it is still someone else's problem.

[T_Hamilton]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Brent is going to resell it anyhow, so it is still someone else's problem.

And if he does the hope is he takes the loss when it goes for less... and he has to live with the choices he has made.

I won't resell it knowing what we all know... and even if I did, do you truly think I would get the price I paid for it based on allegations, facts and evidence of his scam?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by T_Hamilton

And if he does the hope is he takes the loss when it goes for less... and he has to live with the choices he has made.

I won't resell it knowing what we all know... and even if I did, do you truly think I would get the price I paid for it based on allegations, facts and evidence of his scam?

I know you won't do it. As for price, I doubt the scam affects much at this point. Very few guys would even research the card to tie it back to PWCC. We have seen in this forum at least one person annoyed that Brent took down a card from the current auction because he wanted to bid on it. More likely you wouldn't get the same price because PWCC gets higher prices than the rest of us.

[sportscardtheory]

Originally Posted by T_Hamilton

This just masks the problem in my opinion. I would hate to make this someone else's problem by submitting to SGC and then trying to resell.

And also, what if SGC says its trimmed or altered. Then what. You're stuck with a card possibly worth about a quarter of it's graded value/what you paid.