I guess this is goodbye

[steve B]

So where would you draw the line on sponsorships?

Would a non- hobby sponsorship from an organization you find distasteful be acceptable?
Or any non- hobby sponsorship?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by steve B

So where would you draw the line on sponsorships?

Would a non- hobby sponsorship from an organization you find distasteful be acceptable?
Or any non- hobby sponsorship?

Net 54 baseball, brought to you by Coach's Corner, Battlefield, Mastro and Allen, and so on. It would be "disingenuous" to object, after all. No line drawing, Steve. Only enjoyment matters.

PS pointing out the absurdity of the argument being made, not at all suggesting Leon would ever go there, he wouldn't.

[ullmandds]

If Dick Towle were a paid advertiser on this forum...would this pose a problem to anyone?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

If Dick Towle were a paid advertiser on this forum...would this pose a problem to anyone?

Are you kidding Pete? 90 percent here probably have no problem with what he does. Gary might be a better example. "Sell me your centered 5s and 6s." No problem here, it would be "disingenuous" to object.

[ullmandds]

Well, pete...typically the majority rules? If the mass majority of collectors/investors don't have a problem with alterations of cards...ineptitudes of TPG'ers...corruption and degenerate ethical/moral standards of most everyone in the hobby...then this will likely dictate the path of the future of collecting. Leaving purists like you and I to either accept or leave.

[Leon]

I appreciate all of the comments both good and bad. I never want to see any member leave but my reasoning for doing things is my reasoning. I know many, if not most, think it is a monetary thing. It isn't. It is a principled thing and I have not come to the point of making the decision to take down the banners. However, it is now PWCC's wish to have them removed until this fiasco gets settled. I will certainly abide by their wishes.
They didn't want to cause more stress on them, this forum or the hobby. I will respect their wishes, as I do all advertisers. So in the next 1-2 days their banners will no longer be here, at least for the time being. Thanks again to all of our members for making this the best, most real (with our id policy), vintage baseball card (& other forums) on the internet.
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[kateighty]

This thread makes me sad. We hope you come back soon Paul!

Also thanks Leon for the update.

Not to sound like a suck up but Leon really is in a unique position as the owner of this forum that has brought us together. Regardless of the drama, he's the ump every time something like this happens. It can't be easy. He's like the dad driving the minivan as we're all bickering in the back. Thanks Leon for doing what you do and here's to hoping Paul and Leon make up at the next rest stop!

[glynparson]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2D6xSDffm6c

[71buc]

I too both enjoy and appreciate this site greatly. I am grateful for its existence and believe Leon should run it as he pleases and maximize the revenue it generates. That being said, without a passionate and voluminous membership there would be no advertising revenue. The fact that there are no membership fees serves to make easy to forget that the posters are the stars of this show. Nonetheless, none of of us are chained to our keyboards and can leave at anytime. OK I'll admit I might be the only one chained to his keyboard. I love this site.