SGC what exactly is the Guarantee, nothing, they deffered me to FBI

[Republicaninmass]

My experience Includes a signed t206 which was proven to be a forgery. After going back and forth thr SGC they stated*

"
As forgery is a federal offense, it is common that the FBI becomes involved to achieve restitution from the forger. In this particular case, there is an open FBI investigation, and we recommend that any parties involved reach out to that organization directly."

So their guarantee doesnt guarantee squat.*

Also, their "new grading scale" I will be posting a PSA 8 card slightly MC on the back, which was graded.....an SGC 4!*I will post the card when it arrives. SGC must just be tougher right?


I will no longer be doing business with them on any scale

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

My experience Includes a signed t206 which was proven to be a forgery. After going back and forth thr SGC they stated*

"
As forgery is a federal offense, it is common that the FBI becomes involved to achieve restitution from the forger. In this particular case, there is an open FBI investigation, and we recommend that any parties involved reach out to that organization directly."

So their guarantee doesnt guarantee squat.*

Also, their "new grading scale" I will be posting a PSA 8 card slightly MC on the back, which was graded.....an SGC 4!*I will post the card when it arrives. SGC must just be tougher right?


I will no longer be doing business with them on any scale

A page out of the PSA WIWAG response.

[conor912]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

My experience Includes a signed t206 which was proven to be a forgery. After going back and forth thr SGC they stated*

"
As forgery is a federal offense, it is common that the FBI becomes involved to achieve restitution from the forger. In this particular case, there is an open FBI investigation, and we recommend that any parties involved reach out to that organization directly."

So their guarantee doesnt guarantee squat.*

Also, their "new grading scale" I will be posting a PSA 8 card slightly MC on the back, which was graded.....an SGC 4!*I will post the card when it arrives. SGC must just be tougher right?


I will no longer be doing business with them on any scale

Wait, What?! So then any auto they authenticate that turns out to be bad is the feds' problem? What kind of upside down bizarro world BS is that?

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by conor912

Wait, What?! So then any auto they authenticate that turns out to be bad is the feds' problem? What kind of upside down bizarro world BS is that?

Yep, per Tyler at SGC that is their stance . The buck (herzog) stops there

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[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by conor912

Wait, What?! So then any auto they authenticate that turns out to be bad is the feds' problem? What kind of upside down bizarro world BS is that?

Not the feds' problem, the buyer's problem.

[conor912]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Not the feds' problem, the buyer's problem.

Jeez. That would be like finding out a PSA card is trimmed and having them tell you to go after the seller.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by conor912

Jeez. That would be like finding out a PSA card is trimmed and having them tell you to go after the seller.

Worse no? Cant imagine the FBI brings restitution to people, though I have been wrong before

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[conor912]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

Worse no? Cant imagine the FBI brings restitution to people, though I have been wrong before

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There are much more crucial things that the government can't be relied on for. I can't imagine restitution for baseball cards being very high on the list.

What a strange time we're living (and collecting) in. Accountability and personal responsibility have flown the coop everywhere we look. Spin, deny, blame, repeat.

[Scott L.]

FBI: "Federal Bureau of Investigation main switchboard may I help you?"

Teddy: "Yes Hi I'd like to speak to someone about getting my money back on a fake Buck Herzog autograph I purchased that was guaranteed authentic"

FBI: "Oh I know right where to send you....hold please."

Probably will go down just like that.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by conor912

There are much more crucial things that the government can't be relied on for. I can't imagine restitution for baseball cards being very high on the list.

What a strange time we're living (and collecting) in. Accountability and personal responsibility have flown the coop everywhere we look. Spin, deny, blame, repeat.

We have a job for you in crisis management.