Poll: response to recent PWCC revelations

Peter_Spaeth · #1 06-12-2019, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

If all 3 were of equal importance to you, why was PWCC the only one in your poll?

Have you read any of my posts savaging Sloan's response, by the way? If not read them and come back and make the absurd suggestion that I am not just as focused on PSA.

Exhibitman · #2 06-13-2019, 09:13 AM

No More PWCC. Life is too short.

sportscardtheory · #3 06-13-2019, 01:57 PM

This was from early in the thread, but I just laughed out loud when someone said they needed "video evidence" to believe PWCC was involved in this completely obvious fraud. Hilarious. Try changing that guy's mind on ANYTHING. He's dug in like a tick.

perezfan · #4 06-13-2019, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by sportscardtheory

This was from early in the thread, but I just laughed out loud when someone said they needed "video evidence" to believe PWCC was involved in this completely obvious fraud. Hilarious. Try changing that guy's mind on ANYTHING. He's dug in like a tick.

Yeah, I�m beginning to think there�s nothing more we can do. Of the people polled, over half now say they�ll still buy from PWCC, as opposed to those who�s minds have changed. And that�s within a forum devoted specifically to advanced collectors... must be a far greater percentage when you incorporate collectors who aren�t even aware of net54 or BO.

I suppose no amount of overwhelming evidence will sway them. I was completely unaware of the number of people who are in this just for money. A real eye-opener.

Dpeck100 · #5 06-13-2019, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by perezfan

Yeah, I�m beginning to think there�s nothing more we can do. Of the people polled, over half now say they�ll still buy from PWCC, as opposed to those who�s minds have changed. And that�s within a forum devoted specifically to advanced collectors... must be a far greater percentage when you incorporate collectors who aren�t even aware of net54 or BO.

I suppose no amount of overwhelming evidence will sway them. I was completely unaware of the number of people who are in this just for money. A real eye-opener.

It is not about money its about supply.

I just checked my EBAY history and the last purchase I made through PWCC was September 26 and I spent $20.80 before shipping. Their shipping by the way is miles ahead of almost all EBAY participants. These two cards I won well below my max bids.

Prior to that I won a card on July 26th for $90. Guess what there hasn't been one listed since. We are approaching a year.

I could live without all three of these cards but in June they listed a card I really wanted. I am not going to just let someone else win that card I want because the internet thinks I should boycott a seller.

You will notice all that have said they will continue to purchase from them haven't once said those that wouldn't are stupid. The same can't be said for the opposite.

I am betting on human behavior and I believe the supply will continue to attract the bids.

sportscardtheory · #6 06-13-2019, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Dpeck100

It is not about money its about supply.

I just checked my EBAY history and the last purchase I made through PWCC was September 26 and I spent $20.80 before shipping. Their shipping by the way is miles ahead of almost all EBAY participants. These two cards I won well below my max bids.

Prior to that I won a card on July 26th for $90. Guess what there hasn't been one listed since. We are approaching a year.

I could live without all three of these cards but in June they listed a card I really wanted. I am not going to just let someone else win that card I want because the internet thinks I should boycott a seller.

You will notice all that have said they will continue to purchase from them haven't once said those that wouldn't are stupid. The same can't be said for the opposite.

I am betting on human behavior and I believe the supply will continue to attract the bids.

You do you. Just don't cry to anyone when it burns you. They sell altered cards. Caught red-handed. Most collectors don't like altered cards. You can't say squat if/when it affects your collection negatively. I have probably spent thousands with PWCC, which means I probably have some altered cards in my collection and so do you. Never getting a penny again. You can do whatever you want.

Dpeck100 · #7 06-13-2019, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by sportscardtheory

You do you. Just don't cry to anyone when it burns you. They sell altered cards. Caught red-handed. Most collectors don't like altered cards. You can't say squat if/when it affects your collection negatively. I have probably spent thousands with PWCC, which means I probably have some altered cards in my collection and so do you. Never getting a penny again. You can do whatever you want.

So are you going to boycott Probstein?

Many of the people who send cards to PWCC use him too.

Dpeck100 · #8 06-13-2019, 03:07 PM

If you do a search by PSA on EBAY by highest price 20 of the top 25 cards with bids being auctioned off right now are through PWCC.

For collectors to simply boycott them isn't going to be easy.

sportscardtheory · #9 06-13-2019, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dpeck100

So are you going to boycott Probstein?

Many of the people who send cards to PWCC use him too.

I'm boycotting PWCC. Probstein has nothing to do with PWCC.

Republicaninmass · #10 06-13-2019, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dpeck100

So are you going to boycott Probstein?

Many of the people who send cards to PWCC use him too.

I know right?

Funny how the Blow out detectives haven't found any cards linked to him

edited maybe one or two bought, none sold I believe

View Poll Results: What is your response to the recent PWCC revelations?
1. I wasn't buying from or consigning to PWCC in the first place.	166	34.87%
I will no longer buy from/consign to PWCC.	163	34.24%
I will continue to buy from/consign to PWCC.	78	16.39%
I haven't decided	69	14.50%
Voters: 476. You may not vote on this poll

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