NY Times covers the scandal

darwinbulldog · #1 06-14-2019, 12:51 PM

I do have one question. Does anybody know what are these "25 rarest baseball cards" that Ken Kendrick owns? Surely there are more than 25 unique baseball cards, so the claim can't be accurate; I'm just wondering which cards are being touted as the 25 rarest.

jhs5120 · #2 06-14-2019, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by darwinbulldog

I do have one question. Does anybody know what are these "25 rarest baseball cards" that Ken Kendrick owns? Surely there are more than 25 unique baseball cards, so the claim can't be accurate; I'm just wondering which cards are being touted as the 25 rarest.

Not really the rarest (unless you consider them the rarest for their condition?), but certainly some of the most valuable.

https://www.sportscollectorsdaily.co...on-on-exhibit/

Rhotchkiss · #3 06-14-2019, 05:46 PM

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Not really the rarest (unless you consider them the rarest for their condition?), but certainly some of the most valuable.

https://www.sportscollectorsdaily.co...on-on-exhibit/

Thanks for the link. I love that he has the D Backs collection on all flips. Very smart. Even if determined to be altered, the cards are still from Kendrick's D Backs collection, which will make them valuable (exactly like the �Gretzky Wagner�).

oldjudge · #4 06-14-2019, 01:09 PM

Glenn�Ken�s collection is more condition rarities than really rare cards. He has the trimmed Wagner, a PSA 10 �52 Topps Mantle, and other high grade cards such as the M101-5 Thorpe, a nice, albeit blank back, M101 Ruth, etc. None of the rarest cards in the hobby are in his collection.

darwinbulldog · #5 06-14-2019, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by oldjudge

Glenn�Ken�s collection is more condition rarities than really rare cards. He has the trimmed Wagner, a PSA 10 �52 Topps Mantle, and other high grade cards such as the M101-5 Thorpe, a nice, albeit blank back, M101 Ruth, etc. None of the rarest cards in the hobby are in his collection.

Oh, okay. [yawn]

ruth_rookie · #6 06-14-2019, 05:57 PM

Peter, does the fact that Moser actually commented indicate he hasn�t lawyered up yet? If he has surely he would have been advised to shut his pie hole. And if I see hundreds of doctored cards on the net linked to me, I�m buying the best attorney i can find, which should be a pretty damn good one considering the sheer volume of cards outed on BO and the funds that appear to be coming in faster than he can can count it.

drcy · #7 06-14-2019, 06:00 PM

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Peter, does the fact that Moser actually commented indicate he hasn�t lawyered up yet? If he has surely he would have been advised to shut his pie hole. And if I see hundreds of doctored cards on the net linked to me, I�m buying the best attorney i can find, which should be a pretty damn good one considering the sheer volume of cards outed on BO and the funds that appear to be coming in faster than he can can count it.

I'm not surprised by what he said, but that talk to a NYT reporter

Peter_Spaeth · #8 06-14-2019, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ruth_rookie

Peter, does the fact that Moser actually commented indicate he hasn’t lawyered up yet? If he has surely he would have been advised to shut his pie hole. And if I see hundreds of doctored cards on the net linked to me, I’m buying the best attorney i can find, which should be a pretty damn good one considering the sheer volume of cards outed on BO and the funds that appear to be coming in faster than he can can count it.

I can only speculate, I don't know Gary or have any idea really what he has or hasn't done on that front. All I can say is that if I had a client accused of similar acts, I am pretty sure I would advise him not to respond to press inquiries.

ruth_rookie · #9 06-14-2019, 06:19 PM

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I can only speculate, I don't know Gary or have any idea really what he has or hasn't done on that front. All I can say is that if I had a client accused of similar acts, I am pretty sure I would advise him not to respond to press inquiries.

Regardless, I�m betting he�ll have to obtain counsel at some point. Based on his comment he�ll probably plead not guilty, and his arrogance tells me odds are he�ll take the stand in his own defense. Can�t wait to watch him get chewed up and spit out on cross examination.

pokerplyr80 · #10 06-14-2019, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by oldjudge

Glenn�Ken�s collection is more condition rarities than really rare cards. He has the trimmed Wagner, a PSA 10 �52 Topps Mantle, and other high grade cards such as the M101-5 Thorpe, a nice, albeit blank back, M101 Ruth, etc. None of the rarest cards in the hobby are in his collection.

I harsh assessment of what by almost any standard is at worst one of the top 2 or 3 collections in the world, at least as far as I'm aware. The article is actually referring to what are generally accepted as the top 25 cards in the hobby in terms of value, significance, and popularity. Keep in mind this article was written by a journalist who obviously doesn't collect. A few details are bound to be incorrect.

RedsFan1941 · #11 06-14-2019, 02:59 PM

congratulations to peter on joining the 1 percent

oldjudge · #12 06-14-2019, 03:21 PM

Jesse, I never said his cards are not valuable; I just said that they are not rare.

pokerplyr80 · #13 06-14-2019, 04:36 PM

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Jesse, I never said his cards are not valuable; I just said that they are not rare.

I never said you did. Rare is a relative term but some of his cards are what most would consider rare.

darwinbulldog · #14 06-14-2019, 05:56 PM

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Rare is a relative term but some of his cards are what most would consider rare.

I think rarity is an absolute term in this context and just the inverse of population, so if there are 70 T206 Wagners that makes the card more rare than one of his cards with 100 copies but less rare than one of his cards with 10 copies, doesn't it?

aaroncc · #15 06-14-2019, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

I harsh assessment of what by almost any standard is at worst one of the top 2 or 3 collections in the world, at least as far as I'm aware. The article is actually referring to what are generally accepted as the top 25 cards in the hobby in terms of value, significance, and popularity. Keep in mind this article was written by a journalist who obviously doesn't collect. A few details are bound to be incorrect.

Jay stated condition rarities. Not too hard to comprehend.

pokerplyr80 · #16 06-14-2019, 03:38 PM

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Jay stated condition rarities. Not too hard to comprehend.

I understand what Jay wrote. It's your comprehension of my statement that needs improvement.

MULLINS5 · #17 06-14-2019, 04:23 PM

If Moser was looking for just bumps the certs would be the same....

I bet the feds can pull some of his fingerprints off them.

oldjudge · #18 06-14-2019, 04:29 PM

Patrick-I don't think that is so. His best chance for a bump, even if he did nothing to the card, would be to break it out and resubmit it. That would generate a new certificate number.

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