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Old 06-20-2019, 05:15 PM
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Willie Randolph. The obvious one, Mattingly.
Mattingly, yes....Randolph, no....Just my opinion
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Old 06-20-2019, 05:41 PM
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Sabathia is an absolute yes for HOF to me. Maybe not first ballot, but he definitely gets in.

In some sense he was a compiler, yes, with only one 20 win season. Yes, the ERA is a little "thick" but he also pitched virtually his entire career in the AL (ex the Milwaukee stint where he went 11-2 with a 1.65 ERA), including through the back half of the steroid era.

Pretty likable guy, seems like a pretty good teammate and he's definitely a gamer.

Being a lefty helps the case, but he seems like a pretty easy choice to me.
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Mattingly, yes....Randolph, no....Just my opinion
advanced metrics like Randolph better believe it or not.
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advanced metrics like Randolph better believe it or not.
No offense Scott, then obviously the metrics SUCK
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This shit about WAR and metrics just blows me away. If you were in game 7 of the World Series, bases loaded and down by two and two outs, who would you rather have at bat? Mattingly or Willie Randolph? This is just crazy, no contest
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but you don't choose the HOF on one at bat you choose it on a body of work.
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but you don't choose the HOF on one at bat you choose it on a body of work.
So....Randolph and Mattingly are the exact same age, you can get either one of them for the same price. You dont need any positional needs, so you are simply going with the player.....Who do you take?
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Mattingley.....307 career batting average, Randolph, .274....Why are we even discussing this?
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Give me a break. Randolph never had a season like Mattingly did in 1986 and that's not even the season he won the MVP. The distance between them is huge in my opinion. If not for his injuries, Mattingly would be the guy everyone compared Pujols to.
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Give me a break. Randolph never had a season like Mattingly did in 1986 and that's not even the season he won the MVP. The distance between them is huge in my opinion. If not for his injuries, Mattingly would be the guy everyone compared Pujols to.
Yes....People need to realize that there are many variables to being elected to the HOF. Mattingly had them all...Including being a great team leader. Players, coaches loved him. To compare this guy to Willie Randolph is a disgrace, Willie Randolph is in more company with Mickey Rivers than Mattingly
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Mattingly, yes....Randolph, no....Just my opinion
FWIW Hall of Stats has Randolph about 50 points higher than Mattingly, who is by their standards utterly mediocre.
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