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Old 06-23-2019, 10:37 AM
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Law enforcement hasn't viewed it as a priority because there is no crime in breaking a card out of a case, rubbing bleach on it, tinkering with the edges, and maybe touching up a little color and then sending it on to PSA having the industry leading verifying company bless it and return it to you with a new grade, and you make no warranty about the grading or anything else in selling it to someone else.

Yes, I know we've had this discussion many times. . . . .

Sleazy practices don't always equate with illegal behavior.
No, but fraud is illegal. I'm not getting dragged into this again. Read the Mastro indictment. Read the mail and wire fraud statutes and the textbook definitions of fraud including fraudulent concealment.
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No, but fraud is illegal. I'm not getting dragged into this again. Read the Mastro indictment. Read the mail and wire fraud statutes and the textbook definitions of fraud including fraudulent concealment.
I feel like we've had this conversation before and that you & I explained it pretty clearly previously. But my memory isn't so good sometimes. Maybe I just daydreamed that.
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These guys are still around for a few of reason...
A. There is money to be made...scamming so they’re gonna try, it’s a thrill for them to one up you and make money.
B. TPG are not catching their crap....
C. No Consequences for their actions...
And worse but hell there is my very small nuts and bolts meat and potatoes simple reasons assessment of why they’re still around.
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I feel like we've had this conversation before and that you & I explained it pretty clearly previously. But my memory isn't so good sometimes. Maybe I just daydreamed that.
Yeah it's frustrating that there is still resistance to this very basic and obvious point.
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