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Old 06-24-2019, 11:19 AM
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I’m not aware of that....do you know for a fact that card trimmers have found a way to mimic a natural normal factory cut?? That’s news to me ???
I don’t think this is the reason why so many trimmed cards have been slabbed by graders I think it’s because the graders slabbing so many obvious short trimmed cards suck at their job.

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Old 06-24-2019, 11:31 AM
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I’m not aware of that....do you know for a fact that card trimmers have found a way to mimic a natural normal factory cut??
Yes, it's a fact. There are hundreds of examples on the Blowout Forums. Take a look at this Doak Walker rookie, for example:

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Old 06-24-2019, 11:45 AM
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How about measuring pixels between the black border on most cards. That is a standard number. Then measure pixels on the entire card including boarder. The ratio times the black border dimensions gives you the overall card measurements.

Will work for the PSA 8 Wagner too.
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Old 06-27-2019, 02:01 AM
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I’m not aware of that....do you know for a fact that card trimmers have found a way to mimic a natural normal factory cut?? That’s news to me ???
Moser can also replicate a factory rough cut. Look in the Mantle thread for the 1952 Topps Look-N-See cards. Trimmed on the sides with "replaced" rough cuts.
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Old 06-27-2019, 07:36 AM
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Through my years of experience, measuring a card is not a good indication. Many of the t206 cards for example are cut over and under sized. Most of the time it is obvious that you will see a wave in the card. Most of the time I look at the edges of the card. If you see any kind of a slight wave on the edge, it is altered. I know some people line the card up over a page of a book and can check the edge that way.
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Old 06-27-2019, 10:46 AM
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Through my years of experience, measuring a card is not a good indication. Many of the t206 cards for example are cut over and under sized. Most of the time it is obvious that you will see a wave in the card. Most of the time I look at the edges of the card. If you see any kind of a slight wave on the edge, it is altered. I know some people line the card up over a page of a book and can check the edge that way.
No single way can tell you if trimming has been done. While it's not all that common, it's entirely possible for a factory cut to not be straight.

Like this. Totally crooked, also entirely factory.
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