Do Pre-War Collectors buy Modern Cards Featurin Game Used Items of Pre-War Players

david_l · #1 06-24-2019, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Orioles1954

Some people will ramble on about it defacing history, etc. I'd rather have a collector have a swatch than some museum or a multi-gazallionaire have the whole piece. That's just my opinion though.

Edited to add: The biggest issue with some of these pieces is that there is no way to verify authenticity.

Yeah! Museums are the worst!

pokerplyr80 · #2 06-24-2019, 04:01 PM

I do not personally but do understand the appeal. The only one I would really consider would be a Ruth cut auto.

Orioles1954 · #3 06-24-2019, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by david_l

Yeah! Museums are the worst!

You do know that the overwhelming majority of memorabilia given to museums never sees the light of day, right?

bnorth · #4 06-24-2019, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Orioles1954

You do know that the overwhelming majority of memorabilia given to museums never sees the light of day, right?

Boy did I learn that one the hard way. They can also sell it or anything they want with it. I learned this the hard way after a museum begged me for some items. Also the one item in the collection the curator said they really liked magically disappeared.

68Hawk · #5 06-26-2019, 01:53 AM

I think they can be mesmerizing...I regularly look at this one and am transported to another time.
I feel lucky to own it and not at all bashful to say so.

obcbobd · #6 06-26-2019, 06:51 AM

Warning grouchy old man rant!

I think there is a special place in baseball hell for whoever cut up a Babe Ruth bat or uniform into a million pieces.

Snapolit1 · #7 06-26-2019, 06:56 AM

Zero interest. Would guess 95% of them are bogus. Human nature being what it is, I'm sure numerous Babe Ruth jersey and pants swatches were located in a nearby Goodwill store.

If you are trying to find the corner of the hobby most likely rife with fraud you've no doubt found it. And there's ample competition.

Zero provenance to any of this crap. Could be anything. Piece of a Babe Ruth bat? Yeah sure it is.

And I don't want a miniscule slice of wood even it it was was they are saying it is.

bbcard1 · #8 06-26-2019, 08:13 AM

Yep. Love them. Have several. I wouldn't break the bank on one..I think the most I paid was $100 or so for a Babe Ruth pants card numbered 150 of 150.

68Hawk · #9 06-26-2019, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Zero interest. Would guess 95% of them are bogus. Human nature being what it is, I'm sure numerous Babe Ruth jersey and pants swatches were located in a nearby Goodwill store.

If you are trying to find the corner of the hobby most likely rife with fraud you've no doubt found it. And there's ample competition.

Zero provenance to any of this crap. Could be anything. Piece of a Babe Ruth bat? Yeah sure it is.

And I don't want a miniscule slice of wood even it it was was they are saying it is.

Not quite sure what the distress is about? I mean, if were talking about more than one existing of anything of course.....

You want that bat whole so you can swing it one day? Think you'll get the chance? Or so that you can own it one day in your man-cave privacy...are you one of the very few who have the pockets to do so?
Or maybe it's so that you or others can visit it at a museum in the unlikely event it becomes owned by one? Because, you know, museums never sell off their stuff privately when they don't have the money because of low patronage...

What's all the wa wa-ing for?
Nothing else in life gets parsed in time for others to enjoy?
Autographs in books or other never get separated so that they can be framed alone for an owner to enjoy?
Sheets or folios from ancient Bibles haven't been unbound and given as gifts to other clergy members or sold to collectors to enjoy?
Audubon plates of birds aren't removed from original massive collations to be framed and hung on walls to be enjoyed by the many?
Massive 12 chair dining sets aren't broken up among family members so that more can enjoy their grace?
Cars aren't cannibalized so that 'original' parts can be put frankenstein style into other survivors to keep that new amalgam on the road?
How come sports cards that are never originally meant to be inked over but that collectors get signed haven't been 'ruined' and desecrated?
That can't be undone either.

Mate, it's only 'stuff'. Things that break down molecule by molecule over time just like our own bodies and should be enjoyed by as many people as possible. These memorabilia cards haven't been destroyed, or removed from existence the pieces used to create them, but have simply transformed their form so that many more people can be connected to them.
And often, in my opinion, the resultant cards become works of art that are every bit as special to behold:

Or maybe you just wanna sit around in you lounge room in a mothball smelling jersey Earl Averill wore just for kicks?

HRBAKER · #10 06-26-2019, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Zero interest. Would guess 95% of them are bogus. Human nature being what it is, I'm sure numerous Babe Ruth jersey and pants swatches were located in a nearby Goodwill store.

If you are trying to find the corner of the hobby most likely rife with fraud you've no doubt found it. And there's ample competition.

Zero provenance to any of this crap. Could be anything. Piece of a Babe Ruth bat? Yeah sure it is.

And I don't want a miniscule slice of wood even it it was was they are saying it is.

This is where I am at. No veracity other than words printed on the back of a card.

darwinbulldog · #11 06-28-2019, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Zero interest. Would guess 95% of them are bogus. Human nature being what it is, I'm sure numerous Babe Ruth jersey and pants swatches were located in a nearby Goodwill store.

If you are trying to find the corner of the hobby most likely rife with fraud you've no doubt found it. And there's ample competition.

Zero provenance to any of this crap. Could be anything. Piece of a Babe Ruth bat? Yeah sure it is.

And I don't want a miniscule slice of wood even it it was was they are saying it is.

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