Unknown Babe Adams Strip-esque card

[VoodooChild]

I'm bored at work. Google is passing the time. Maybe this is the photo that was used?

[brianp-beme]

Being bored at work can be the time when we are most productive in our collecting interests.

I would say that the photo shown is most likely the source image, especially because of the background match on the W515 card.

Brian

[Yastrzemski Sports]

I have heard that the strip cards with blue lettering were reproductions.

[brianp-beme]

A follow up on this topic...here is a a strip of five of these cards I encountered, including the Adams I have, the Hoyt I noticed being sold previously, as well as a Cobb. What do you people make of this strip?

Brian

[GeoPoto]

Made in Germany?!

[nolemmings]

Well, although I don't concede that it's genuine, it does appear to follow the design and general color scheme of the 1923 German transfers. Same images as W515-1 with modified colored backgrounds, blue font and year of production (if real). Note that although the cards are unnumbered, they do correspond with numbers 6-10 of the W515-1 set, which suggests they were properly placed on a strip that followed the same printing scheme. Still, the "Made in Germany" statement seems almost conveniently placed to me.

[swarmee]

Would any counterfeiter in the US get the upside down quotation mark on "Ty" wrong? Europe would make more sense for that mistake because I know Spanish uses upside down literary marks (like exclamation points and question marks) at the beginning of sentences.
Plus, being from Europe would explain why they're rarely found. You think the counterfeiter who made this would release the Babe Adams and Waite Hoyt first? Or would they get the entire strip out there first? Or just make a sheet of all Ty Cobbs?

Does it fluouresce under black light? I lean towards real.

[brianp-beme]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

Well, although I don't concede that it's genuine, it does appear to follow the design and general color scheme of the 1923 German transfers. Same images as W515-1 with modified colored backgrounds, blue font and year of production (if real). Note that although the cards are unnumbered, they do correspond with numbers 6-10 of the W515-1 set, which suggests they were properly placed on a strip that followed the same printing scheme. Still, the "Made in Germany" statement seems almost conveniently placed to me.

Thanks Todd for your thoughts. Once I saw this strip, I too thought that stylistically they reminded me of the German transfers, which I had not quite made the connection before. The red ink 'Made in Germany' catches the eye in the wrong way, but the transfers have always seemed a little off compared to other issues of the period...they just look different. At least this strip makes me want to move my Adams to the outskirts of my regular collection, after residing for years in the reprint rubble pile.

Brian

[Leon]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

Well, although I don't concede that it's genuine, it does appear to follow the design and general color scheme of the 1923 German transfers. Same images as W515-1 with modified colored backgrounds, blue font and year of production (if real). Note that although the cards are unnumbered, they do correspond with numbers 6-10 of the W515-1 set, which suggests they were properly placed on a strip that followed the same printing scheme. Still, the "Made in Germany" statement seems almost conveniently placed to me.

I am skeptical as I said in the first thread Brian pointed to. I could be wrong..I would like to be able to hold it in person...
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[Clutch-Hitter]

Originally Posted by brianp-beme

A follow up on this topic...here is a a strip of five of these cards I encountered, including the Adams I have, the Hoyt I noticed being sold previously, as well as a Cobb. What do you people make of this strip?

Brian

Leaning toward it being a genuine strip card with the inclusion of that uncut strip, the passing of the black light test, and the link to Germany (those 1923 German transfers - “made in Germany”)

[brianp-beme]

I thought it would be interesting to see a comparison of this mystery strip to the corresponding cards from the W515-1 set. I think this strip might have actually been based upon the corresponding W515-2 cards, due to its larger player image, which is what is seen in the W515-2 set.

Brian