Negative experience with Billyscards

Peter_Spaeth · #1 07-05-2019, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mechanicalman

I respect what you’ve done, but you have the ability to do so much more, but you don’t. You have names, but you won’t reveal them. I don’t have the history and background you do, so my ability to “do a damn thing,” other than make a bunch of noise, which is fu@king fruitless, is limited.

And just what are you or anyone else going to do, Sam, with a list of say 10 card doctors who don't sell directly but consign to auction houses or sell through PWCC or other ebay sellers?

My impression is that nobody, or not many, here listen anyhow, I've cautioned people for years about PWCC and the response largely has been to ignore or mock me. People including yourself I imagine just keep buying and buying and buying. So to what end am I going to name a bunch of names on a public chatboard and thereby expose myself to the risk of retribution from criminals? And make no mistake, these are criminals.

I'll just go about it my way, and sorry if it isn't good enough for you.

JoeDfan · #2 07-05-2019, 07:36 PM

Billyscards emailed me and apologized "for the inconvenience caused".

Then he did email again and offer to complete the deal; but I politely declined for two reasons:
1) I feel like I should listen to the advice of my good friends and just move on. If something went wrong during the transaction (and I am not implying that it would), then I feel like that would just be my own fault for sure.
2) He clearly wants more for it than I was willing to pay.

Perhaps my thinking here is wrong, and I should in fact pay when I was the one who complained in the first place. Some advice there would certainly be welcome.
However, I have no doubt he will be able to move the photo quickly if he wants. But just not to me.

In any event, Billyscards, thank you for the Ruth bat. It is one of the capstones of my collection, and I absolutely love it.
I sincerely hope that whatever issues, medical or otherwise, you are facing, they are not serious, and good luck buying/selling/collecting in the future.

Thank you everyone who gave me their opinion/advice. I appreciate it, even if you think I might be wrong (which, as I said, is certainly possible).

Also, I don't get to play in the sandbox of cards that involve PWCC, but I do also appreciate ANYONE who works to keep everything honest.

Sean

JollyElm · #3 07-05-2019, 07:39 PM

Class act, JoeD.

Aquarian Sports Cards · #4 07-05-2019, 07:48 PM

I understand where you're coming from, but if he offered to complete the transaction at the agreed upon price I would probably go ahead as he is attempting to do the right thing. Good of you to come on here though and give him a shout out instead of letting everyone think he's completely disreputable. I hope he appreciates that as around here trust is coin of the realm.

JoeDfan · #5 07-05-2019, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

I understand where you're coming from, but if he offered to complete the transaction at the agreed upon price I would probably go ahead as he is attempting to do the right thing. Good of you to come on here though and give him a shout out instead of letting everyone think he's completely disreputable. I hope he appreciates that as around here trust is coin of the realm.

That is a great point, and I thought about that for a long time this afternoon. I was really on the fence with it.
Ultimately, I feel like the best thing to do is just acknowledge the gesture, and let it go.
But you might very well be right, and maybe I am wrong with that decision. But I still have my money, and he still has his item. So even if I am wrong, at least everyone still has their stuff.

pokerplyr80 · #6 07-05-2019, 09:18 PM

He canceled the transaction. You were under no obligation to go through with it after that, and your feeling of apprehension is understandable. It was the right thing to do for the seller to offer you the card at the agreed upon price, even if this happened a little late. It sounds like it would be best for both of you to move on at this point.

Peter_Spaeth · #7 07-05-2019, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeDfan

That is a great point, and I thought about that for a long time this afternoon. I was really on the fence with it.
Ultimately, I feel like the best thing to do is just acknowledge the gesture, and let it go.
But you might very well be right, and maybe I am wrong with that decision. But I still have my money, and he still has his item. So even if I am wrong, at least everyone still has their stuff.

I think you handled this in an exemplary fashion. It's perfectly understandable why you didn't want to go another round.

Republicaninmass · #8 07-06-2019, 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I think you handled this in an exemplary fashion. It's perfectly understandable why you didn't want to go another round.

It is possible stuff DOESNT trump all!

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