I totally forgot PWCC had an auction ending tonight

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

To my eye the Caramel Gehrig was really white.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1932-U-S-Ca...p2047675.l2557

This natural beauty boasts an overall cleanliness not normally seen on the issue with virtually zero product toning present.

Maybe.

Why are we seeing all these super bright cards slabbed by S_C recently?

I don't think there's any question that gehrig's been chemically bathed/bleached!

[Rhotchkiss]

I have not looked at the prices/checked the auction, but it sounds like I got some bad info that prices were soft (the Speaker sounds silly). That said, I watched True Romance (great movie - classic) with my wife last night and was not checking the phone every 3 minutes like I had done many times over in the past. And it was great! Yes, the therapy is working.

Between Heritage, REA, Memory Lane (sick auction coming up BTW), LOTG, Mile High, Brockelman, Sterling, Goldin, SCP, Baggers, etc etc., not to mention regular shows in Chantilly and Philly and maybe the national (or white plains), I have plenty of options and opportunities.

So, for the foreseeable future, PWCC is not an option for me. And, for now, I will ignore their sales on VCP as comps.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

I don't think there's any question that gehrig's been chemically bathed/bleached!

so if someone bought this card thinking it was bleached (bought the card not the holder) and was very confidant that it was like you, are they a future victim if there is more evidence of it..

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

so if someone bought this card thinking it was bleached (bought the card not the holder) and was very confidant that it was like you, are they a future victim if there is more evidence of it..

im not following your "thought" process?

[1952boyntoncollector]

If someone stated on net54, i bought that card, and i KNOW it was bleached but i bought it anyway, and 2 months later there is a photo of the card 3 grades lower that sold 2 months prior to the purchaser that bought the card

are they avictim even though they KNOW it was bleached/altered when they bought (and posted admission of such on net54) the card and now want to use the PSA guarantee or whatever its called or ask for money back for PWCC...

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

I don't think there's any question that gehrig's been chemically bathed/bleached!

This is the third or fourth such card we've seen recently in an S_C holder that looked (to my eye) way too white. I don't know what's going on. A card that white, or as white as that Leaf Jackie was, should raise red flags.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

This is the third or fourth such card we've seen recently in an S_C holder that looked (to my eye) way too white. I don't know what's going on. A card that white, or as white as that Leaf Jackie was, should raise red flags.

Sadly I think the reality is that some alterations are not detectable...atleast not with current techniques used by SGC/PSA/Beckett.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

Sadly I think the reality is that some alterations are not detectable...atleast not with current techniques used by SGC/PSA/Beckett.

How is it not detectable, you and I see it plain as day.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

How is it not detectable, you and I see it plain as day.

I dunno how to answer that, Pete????? Borders on 85 year old cardboard just aren't that white in nature...only after treated not to mention the white speckles throughout the background.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

I dunno how to answer that, Pete????? Borders on 85 year old cardboard just aren't that white in nature...only after treated not to mention the white speckles throughout the background.

That issue is notorious for toning. Even Brent notes, without a trace of irony, how unusually white it is. LOL.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

That issue is notorious for toning. Even Brent notes, without a trace of irony, how unusually white it is. LOL.

Just snowballing here, maybe he uses those type of descriptions as a code. His "real" friends know that means STAY FAR AWAY.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

How is it not detectable, you and I see it plain as day.

Are you being paid not to see it?