Trimmed Green Cobb at National

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by jason.1969

Correct. Was an authentic. Went through Moser. Became a PSA/PWCC 2. Returned by buyer and refunded by Brent as doctored/"conserved." And now back in the wild on the National floor as a PSA 2 like nothing ever happened.

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So does this mean Brent refunded on the card, admitting it had been altered, and then simply resold it? You'd think he would have defaced the PSA flip identifying the card as altered, at minimum, or broken it out of the PSA case so it would, at least for awhile, not be incorrectly labeled a PSA 2.

If the chain of ownership of that card, and what's been happening with it, can be clearly established, I do not think it would go well if introduced as evidence of misrepresentation (fraud) in court.

[jason.1969]

Originally Posted by Mark17

So does this mean Brent refunded on the card, admitting it had been altered, and then simply resold it? You'd think he would have defaced the PSA flip identifying the card as altered, at minimum, or broken it out of the PSA case so it would, at least for awhile, not be incorrectly labeled a PSA 2.



If the chain of ownership of that card, and what's been happening with it, can be clearly established, I do not think it would go well if introduced as evidence of misrepresentation (fraud) in court.

I had an error in my original response that I've now corrected. Brent/PWCC not in the resell loop. Main point is that card is back in the wild with some unsuspecting buyer sure to pounce.

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[Peter_Spaeth]

In a nutshell this is the problem with Sloan's position that buyers of altered cards should go to the seller not PSA. Indeed, it the card has gone up in price, it's just a profit opportunity for the seller. And even if not just put it back out there.

Good solution, Steve.

[Johnny630]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

In a nutshell this is the problem with Sloan's position that buyers of altered cards should go to the seller not PSA. Indeed, it the card has gone up in price, it's just a profit opportunity for the seller. And even if not just put it back out there.

Good solution, Steve.

Exactly

PSA should hold the responsibility for buying back the card and paying the victim the difference.

PSA is a total BS company built on lies....they’re supposed to be the Police in this Meaning Authority In wether a Card is good or not....they’re as corrupt as the card doctors....

The registry is farce/BS marketing.... their pop report is bogus and their company can’t determine what is altered and what is not.....the Industry has been ripe for fraud since the Wagner....PSA’s OPINION is worthless

All the bitching and complaining is worthless if people don’t stop using them and buying their product....

I suspect after the dust settles PSA and the card doctors will continue this at even a more extreme clip....

Zero accountability no card doctors will be charged no responsibility and liability will be placed on PSA ....no change in this industry except for monetary value Of graded cards.

It’s going to Crash....when it does it’s going to be a big crash

[samosa4u]

Originally Posted by Johnny630

It’s going to Crash....when it does it’s going to be a big crash

No it's not.

[Johnny630]

[QUOTE=samosa4u;1905083]No it's not.[/QUOT


I think graded cards need to come down 40% for this to heal.....that would be my non recession crash predictions.

My biggest fear is with no crash that alteration and shill/no winning bids will become acceptable as the norm in this industry....

[Peter_Spaeth]

[QUOTE=Johnny630;1905096]

Originally Posted by samosa4u

No it's not.[/QUOT


I think graded cards need to come down 40% for this to heal.....that would be my non recession crash predictions.

My biggest fear is with no crash that alteration and shill/no winning bids will become acceptable as the norm in this industry....

Perhaps they already have.