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Old 08-14-2019, 09:50 PM
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If you want truly crazy numbers (even for a knuckleballer) he was a starter for basically 5 years. in those 5 years he won 106 games, pitched 1681.2 innings (WOW) 99 Complete Games and 22 shutouts. That's a career for a lot of decent pitchers.
He lost a lot of games too lol.
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Looking at his FIP and his ERA+ that was basically a function of the White Sox being awful. Like Niekro winning and losing 20 in the same season for the 70's Braves.
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Didn't he go 24-20 one season? And I know I can look it up.
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Wood did go 24-20, Niekro went 21 -20 one year.
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Yeah, I remember stumbling across his stats a little while ago and being pretty blown away by that stretch.

68 Sox has both him and Hoyt Wilhelm and Bob Locker in the bullpen, almost untouchable and eating up tons of innings, while they had Tommy John, Gary Peters and a pretty effective starting rotation, and still ended up almost 30 games below .500.

The offense on that team had to be historically atrocious.
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Yeah, I remember stumbling across his stats a little while ago and being pretty blown away by that stretch.

68 Sox has both him and Hoyt Wilhelm and Bob Locker in the bullpen, almost untouchable and eating up tons of innings, while they had Tommy John, Gary Peters and a pretty effective starting rotation, and still ended up almost 30 games below .500.

The offense on that team had to be historically atrocious.
Pete Ward led the team with 15 HR and 50 RBI. Even in the year of the pitcher that's pretty anemic. The entire team hit 71 HR.
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I think Stan Bahnsen is more underappreciated.

He was number two in the Sox effort to replicate

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Wood did go 24-20, Niekro went 21 -20 one year.
Niekro that year (1979) is the only pitcher to ever lead the league in wins and losses in the same season.
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Niekro that year (1979) is the only pitcher to ever lead the league in wins and losses in the same season.
My favorite (and truly incredible) Phil Niekro stat is that when he turned 30 he had 31 wins.
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