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Old 08-20-2019, 05:59 AM
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Default D304 Cobb
Brent purchase out oF REA.

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Old 08-20-2019, 08:25 AM
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I know in at least one case, pwcc reached out to a friend and bought back a mantle they said had been altered - pwcc took the initiative. But I doubt that is the norm. I a bet they only do that for biggest customers and bigger ticket items and wait for the rest to come to them.

Peter, I saw that on blowout. It was a Lionel Carter card. It’s one thing to jack something old, rare and already super valuable. It’s another to piss on such important provenance.
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Old 08-20-2019, 09:01 AM
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I know in at least one case, pwcc reached out to a friend and bought back a mantle they said had been altered - pwcc took the initiative. But I doubt that is the norm. I a bet they only do that for biggest customers and bigger ticket items and wait for the rest to come to them.

Peter, I saw that on blowout. It was a Lionel Carter card. It’s one thing to jack something old, rare and already super valuable. It’s another to piss on such important provenance.
He was only conserving it for the good of the hobby.
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Old 08-20-2019, 09:42 AM
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Seeing this latest cobb makes me hope that J lichtman took the case to intentionally lose it so Brent/Betsy rot in hell for the damage they've done to this hobby.

What are the odds???
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Old 08-20-2019, 10:19 AM
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That's truly tragic that one of the rarer Ty Cobb cards, (and likely others as well) from the historical Lionel Carter collection are being altered (and losing its pedigree in the process) in order to make a profit.
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It turns out this card was first outed right here in 2017, on the WWG DiMaggio thread.

http://www.net54baseball.com/showpos...&postcount=602

A CJ Jackson from the same PSA sub also was outed with a before pic.
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Old 08-20-2019, 11:22 AM
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Greg is banned? I know Kevin seems to think Greg is involved in no good, but in my direct experience with Greg, it’s the exact opposite and is a stand up guy. Indeed, he is apparently the one who outed the Cobb back in 2017 (per Peter’s post) and those efforts remain true to my knowledge. I hope Greg is active on blowout.
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Old 08-20-2019, 11:26 AM
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Greg is banned? I know Kevin seems to think Greg is involved in no good, but in my direct experience with Greg, it’s the exact opposite and is a stand up guy. Indeed, he is apparently the one who outed the Cobb back in 2017 (per Peter’s post) and those efforts remain true to my knowledge. I hope Greg is active on blowout.
Greg has been very instrumental in the Blowout efforts.
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Greg has been very instrumental in the Blowout efforts.
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Greg has been very instrumental in the Blowout efforts.
Good. In my experience, Greg is a solid guy and a friend of the industry (and he has great taste in cards).
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Is it just me or does this card look way short ???? Left and right or maybe worse ???

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-Topps-...p2047675.l2557

Does anyone know if this was Outed on BO
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Greg has been very instrumental in the Blowout efforts.
THis would be nowhere near as big as it is without Greg's efforts. He has been a bulldog in his pursuit of this story. Greg in my experiences is out to do good and right some of the major wrongs in the hobby. apparently he has done some transgressions in the past but i do not know that Greg the one i know has been a standup guy and been fighting for a cleaner more open hobby.I know he and Leon have always clashed but I do not feel Greg should be banned from NEt54. His work on blowout is evidence enough of that in my opinion.
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THis would be nowhere near as big as it is without Greg's efforts. He has been a bulldog in his pursuit of this story. Greg in my experiences is out to do good and right some of the major wrongs in the hobby. apparently he has done some transgressions in the past but i do not know that Greg the one i know has been a standup guy and been fighting for a cleaner more open hobby.I know he and Leon have always clashed but I do not feel Greg should be banned from NEt54. His work on blowout is evidence enough of that in my opinion.
what was the backstory regarding his ban? In my limited dealings with him seemed like a stand-up guy.
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That's truly tragic that one of the rarer Ty Cobb cards, (and likely others as well) from the historical Lionel Carter collection are being altered (and losing its pedigree in the process) in order to make a profit.
It makes that picture of the Wizard at the HOF exhibit all the more revolting, to me.
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