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Orioles1954 · #1 08-25-2019, 12:09 PM

Skip it.

Rhotchkiss · #2 08-25-2019, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Orioles1954

Skip it.

Ha. I too have drafted and deleted numerous posts, each time deciding it�s just not worth getting into. Bottom line for me, Al is one of the good guys and LOTG is a top-notch outfit.

Ryan Hotchkiss

iowadoc77 · #3 08-25-2019, 12:38 PM

The consistency of the complainfest in this hobby is staggering. I love cards. I love talking cards. I love buying cards but threads like this sour the hobby in my opinion.
I should have known better than to open it in the first place. There are a ton of people on this message board and many have really strong opinions. There was no win in this situation. Because no matter what is done some will disagree. That’s life. This is cardboard and tin.
This guy, for one, is sick of all the complaining FOR THE SAKE OF COMPLAINING.
I just want the hobby. And intelligent discussions about it.
Next time I will know better than to open a thread that I know obviously where it is going.
Eric Recker. Just in case that is needed.

Edited to add- Al is one of the best in the hobby. I am thankful for him and his integrity. That is specifically for the op. Al is good stuff. Sorry if you disagree but the evidence is not on your side.

Snapolit1 · #4 08-25-2019, 12:51 PM

One person�s complaining is another person identifying an issue they care about.

Fuddjcal · #5 08-25-2019, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by iowadoc77

The consistency of the complainfest in this hobby is staggering. I love cards. I love talking cards. I love buying cards but threads like this sour the hobby in my opinion.
I should have known better than to open it in the first place. There are a ton of people on this message board and many have really strong opinions. There was no win in this situation. Because no matter what is done some will disagree. That�s life. This is cardboard and tin.
This guy, for one, is sick of all the complaining FOR THE SAKE OF COMPLAINING.
I just want the hobby. And intelligent discussions about it.
Next time I will know better than to open a thread that I know obviously where it is going.
Eric Recker. Just in case that is needed.

Edited to add- Al is one of the best in the hobby. I am thankful for him and his integrity. That is specifically for the op. Al is good stuff. Sorry if you disagree but the evidence is not on your side.

I hate cards. I hate the hobby. I'm in to the hilt and the MAJORITY are scam artists. The intelligent discussions are on BO, where they show you exactly how it is being done . It is a huge syndicate and EVERYONE IS INVOLVED, IMHO. The have ruined the hobby. PERIOD

This is what hobbyists should be discussing , not their stupid collections...that they LOOOOOOOVVVVVVVVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

ALR-bishop · #6 08-25-2019, 01:09 PM

I still like my stupid collection

griffon512 · #7 08-25-2019, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

I still like my stupid collection

+1

griffon512 · #8 08-25-2019, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Fuddjcal

I hate cards. I hate the hobby. I'm in to the hilt and the MAJORITY are scam artists. The intelligent discussions are on BO, where they show you exactly how it is being done . It is a huge syndicate and EVERYONE IS INVOLVED, IMHO. The have ruined the hobby. PERIOD

This is what hobbyists should be discussing , not their stupid collections...that they LOOOOOOOVVVVVVVVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Chuck, I understand and share your frustration but if you hate cards and the hobby why keep on posting on a card hobby forum? Why not take a siesta unless you think these posts will affect some meaningful change to make it a hobby you like again?

Fuddjcal · #9 08-25-2019, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by griffon512

Chuck, I understand and share your frustration but if you hate cards and the hobby why keep on posting on a card hobby forum? Why not take a siesta unless you think these posts will affect some meaningful change to make it a hobby you like again?

Yes, I do think they will lead to meaningful changes if enough people would STOP doing what isn't working...That is my hope. Much like "I hope" the Dodgers are going to win another WS in my lifetime. Probably aint gonna happen.

Peter_Spaeth · #10 08-25-2019, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Fuddjcal

Yes, I do think they will lead to meaningful changes if enough people would STOP doing what isn't working...That is my hope. Much like "I hope" the Dodgers are going to win another WS in my lifetime. Probably aint gonna happen.

Tough to win a WS when you can count on Clayton to get shelled at least twice.

frankbmd · #11 08-25-2019, 02:04 PM

Mobs create bandwagon bias.

Good guys are not infallible.

Regardless of your view, no one or entity achieves 100% accuracy and success.

If you don’t understand this post, carry on.

Aquarian Sports Cards · #12 08-25-2019, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Tough to win a WS when you can count on Clayton to get shelled at least twice.

You're dead to me.

doug.goodman · #13 08-27-2019, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Tough to win a WS when you can count on Clayton to get shelled at least twice.

Oh! It hurts the most because it's true.

Doug "Life long Dodger fan" Goodman

Orioles1954 · #14 08-25-2019, 02:03 PM

I’ve been a part of multiple auctions where problems have arisen on the last day (or last minute) where we have either gone forward or ended the lot. That is due to numerous factors pertaining to both the consignor and bidders. Such problems are not fun particularly when your best efforts will get slammed on a public message board - not by the bidders themselves, but some observer who has an agenda of their own.

Leon · #15 08-25-2019, 02:00 PM

We discussed this before, Chuck. If you hate the hobby and will always hate it then go do something that makes you happy. Life is too short and your shit to equity ratio on our forum is becoming lopsided. We Pmd about this before and you said you would tone it down some? We all know there is fraud in the hobby and it is being talked about investigated, which is good.
But we also like to talk about fun things too. I would rather see positive talk about cards and collections but I am only one vote. That doesn't mean the other fraudulent stuff is being kept secret or squashed. No threads have been deleted and only a few moved, out of quite a few, concerning the fraud.

Here is a Forbes tri fold I picked up last night in LOTG....It went below my max bid too!

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Originally Posted by Fuddjcal

I hate cards. I hate the hobby. I'm in to the hilt and the MAJORITY are scam artists. The intelligent discussions are on BO, where they show you exactly how it is being done . It is a huge syndicate and EVERYONE IS INVOLVED, IMHO. The have ruined the hobby. PERIOD

This is what hobbyists should be discussing , not their stupid collections...that they LOOOOOOOVVVVVVVVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

ValKehl · #16 08-25-2019, 05:03 PM

With respect to the E95 Cobb card, while Al did not take the course of action stated on his LOTG web site (pull this card from the auction), I feel that Al took an even more appropriate course of action under the circumstances. I know that if I were one of the bidders on the Cobb card, I would have been much more pleased with the action Al took, instead of ending the auction for this card.

FWIW, LOTG is one of the very few auction houses that I will leave a maximum bid with. Last night, shortly after midnight, I put in a bid on a pricey (for me) card and became the high bidder. Being an old fart who no longer has the stamina to stay awake all night, I put in a max bid a couple of bidding increments higher and went to bed. BTW, I might be wrong, but I think the owner/consignor of this card was Al himself (from his collection); this thought did not give me any qualms about leaving a max bid. When I awoke this morning, I happily saw that I won this card and that my max bid was unnecessary.

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