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frankbmd · #1 08-25-2019, 02:25 PM

A shout out to REA

At least they didn�t clean (alter???) it, before they sold it.

Hankphenom · #2 08-25-2019, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by frankbmd

A shout out to REA. At least they didn�t clean (alter???) it, before they sold it.

This is tongue-in-cheek, I assume, unless I missed the memo that says it's become not OK to clean stuff. I'm a memorabilia guy, and anybody is welcome to clean things before they sell them to me, other than game-used, of course. Lots of different kinds of "cleaning" are well accepted on the card side, right? We are talking about actual cleaning here, getting dirt and other foreign substances off?

Peter_Spaeth · #3 08-25-2019, 08:35 PM

Just curious.

From the original REA description, it sounds more like rust than grime.

"The offered sign (13.25 x 6 inches) displays heavy surface wear commensurate with its age and former use, including oxidation and small abrasions."

Does distilled water take off rust? If not, what does? I would imagine it would have to be something acidic although I am out of my depth.

ALR-bishop · #4 08-25-2019, 09:46 PM

Out of your depth Peter. Say it is not so

Peter_Spaeth · #5 08-25-2019, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

Out of your depth Peter. Say it is not so

Ha. I know nothing about this area but find it interesting nonetheless, thus the question and glad Steve has now offered his knowledge and hope others will as well. Might as well try to learn something new.

steve B · #6 08-25-2019, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Just curious.

From the original REA description, it sounds more like rust than grime.

"The offered sign (13.25 x 6 inches) displays heavy surface wear commensurate with its age and former use, including oxidation and small abrasions."

Does distilled water take off rust? If not, what does? I would imagine it would have to be something acidic although I am out of my depth.

What was left after the cleaning was the more serious rust.

Some of the rest was probably also rust. Most surface finishes like paint and chrome are slightly porous, and water will get in and cause a bit of rust. Some of the rust appears as loose particles that gets on the surface, and can be cleaned off with water.
Distilled water can have a PH anywhere from 7 which is totally neutral to around 5.6 which is mildly acidic. It depends on how much CO2 the water has absorbed.(and at the 5.6 point, it's not much different from tapwater. )

Personally I'd have dried it with some heat afterwards, like a hairdryer. Then maybe a light wipe with oil or wax to seal it and keep the rust from getting worse. That all depends on the paint. Some paints won't do well with that some almost require it.
Like the old british 3 speed bikes, the paint by now is dried out, and often has a bit of rust showing through. A wipe down with some oil on a paper towel brings it back to almost like new.

drcy · #7 08-25-2019, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by frankbmd

A shout out to REA

At least they didn’t clean (alter???) it, before they sold it.

In fact, I heard they added some more dirt to it just to be even more honest.

(That too was tongue in cheek)

timn1 · #8 08-25-2019, 10:41 PM

Thanks Cb, for keeping us chuckling.
Tim

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Originally Posted by drcy

In fact, I heard they added some more dirt to it just to be even more honest.

(That too was tongue in cheek)

bnorth · #9 08-26-2019, 07:56 AM

This thread is amazing. Guy calls out LOTG for doing something they said would never happen then gets attacked, awesome. Then attackers focus on one of the two problems. Completely ignore the real problem and attack and call names for the one that is more accepted in the hobby.

frankbmd · #10 08-26-2019, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by bnorth

This thread is amazing. Guy calls out LOTG for doing something they said would never happen then gets attacked, awesome. Then attackers focus on one of the two problems. Completely ignore the real problem and attack and call names for the one that is more accepted in the hobby.

Yup! Herd mentality

Snapolit1 · #11 08-26-2019, 10:06 AM

1. Al is a good guy and runs a good AH.

2. You only need to be on this board a few hours before you realize that the mob response will go along party lines very consistently, much like in the world of politics, sports, pop music fandom, or anything else. How people reach to Brent will differ from Probstein which will differ from Goldin which will vary from . . . . Just how things are done. We know the hobby is rife with fraud, so we create broad groupings of heroes and villains and do away with the grey space in between. The heroes are amazing people beyond reproach. Almost saintly. The villains are ruining everything.

Heroes and Villains. More than just a great Beach Boys song.

the-illini · #12 08-26-2019, 10:26 AM

I wish Jesse applied the same diligence in rooting out issues to his own consignments as he does to every consignment to LOTG.

tonyo · #13 08-26-2019, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by bnorth

This thread is amazing. Guy calls out LOTG for doing something they said would never happen then gets attacked, awesome. Then attackers focus on one of the two problems. Completely ignore the real problem and attack and call names for the one that is more accepted in the hobby.

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I am reluctant to post this because it feels in the spirit of no good deed goes unpunished. In normal circumstances I would have found Al's disclosure and notification commendable. That said, in my opinion, he should instead have taken the auction down. He made a bold and unequivocal statement that he would remove any card identified as altered from his auction, yet a card was identified as altered and he didn't remove it. I understand why he didn't, and of course it's easy to pass judgment from a distance, and I continue to hold him in high regard. But I think he should have followed his own policy and not tried to finesse it. Just my opinion.

I very quickly ran thru the thread, but it seems these two posts are the only two that reflect what I thought the OP was pointing out..... I don't believe anyone commented on them.

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