Hey, pennant guys

ooo-ribay · #1 09-04-2019, 06:41 PM

Even though I despise the d**gers (even more than you could ever guess), this pennant caught my eye on eBay. The seller claims it's from the 1959 World Series. Don't know about that, but it does show the Coliseum. I like the colors.

baseball tourist · #2 09-05-2019, 03:18 PM

It�s a bruiser! Any idea what it was celebrating/promoting?

pologrounds · #3 09-22-2019, 11:45 PM

OMG. Compliments of Mayseum Archives.

rlevy · #4 09-29-2019, 10:44 AM

Anyone have info on this pennant that just sold on ebay? I'm not a pennant expert, but the lettering and everything in general just looked off to me. The seller listed it as Jackie Robinson caught in a rundown. When it sold, it was with private bidders ID's.

thanks,
Rick

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vtg-MLB-195...p2047675.l2557

jR rundown pennant.jpg

Duluth Eskimo · #5 09-29-2019, 04:17 PM

This pennant is fine and original from the 50�s. They did remake this pennant, but it was with the stiff bright green synthetic material which is blatantly obvious. It is referred to as Jackie Robinson because of the skin color of the runner. There is a similar White Sox version which is generally referred to as Minnie Minoso. Other than being a little faded and worn it�s a solid pennant.

rlevy · #6 09-29-2019, 06:47 PM

Thanks. Good to know. The Dodgers lettering style wasn�t familiar to me, and I thought the stock was a little stiff.

Thanks again,
Rick

Duluth Eskimo · #7 09-29-2019, 10:49 PM

It looks like it may have gotten wet at one time or was cleaned a little. More likely wet. That oftentimes will discolor the pennant like you can see and also make the material stiffer.

Domer05 · #8 09-06-2019, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

Even though I despise the d**gers (even more than you could ever guess), this pennant caught my eye on eBay. The seller claims it's from the 1959 World Series. Don't know about that, but it does show the Coliseum. I like the colors.

I knew you'd finally come around, Rob. Let your inner Dodger fan out. You're among friends here....

I think we discussed this red Coliseum pennant earlier. The batter, in particular, we identified as being associated with Trench's pennants from that era. But, while I still believe Trench made this pennant, the rest of the artwork doesn't match the many, many other stadium pennants Trench made in the 1950s and 60s.

This Coliseum, in particular, is mostly empty. 92,000 empty seats, that is. Most of Trench's stadium pennants, including a subsequent version depicting the Coliseum with a Willard Mullin bum standing over the field, depict full stadiums--illustrated by a random pattern of multi-colored circles representing spectators. Not here.

The only other Trench pennant like this that comes to mind is the San Francisco Giants pennant showing the very same Trench batter standing over an illustration of Seals Stadium. That one, we agreed, looked like it was by Trench; but, again, the ballpark was drawn empty.

(I know you own it, so I'll let you post it in your response.)

I wonder if maybe the normal Trench artist was on vacation in April of 1958, when I suspect both were made?

bocca001 · #9 09-06-2019, 07:52 AM

Here is the Seals Stadium pennant and a later version? from Candlestick. Both empty. Must have been night games.

I do like the colors on the Dodgers pennant.

By the way, did anyone notice that this thread now has more than 2,500 replies? I think that it is now the most replied to thread on the board.

ooo-ribay · #10 09-06-2019, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by bocca001

By the way, did anyone notice that this thread now has more than 2,500 replies? I think that it is now the most replied to thread on the board.

It's where the cool kids hang.

bocca001 · #11 09-06-2019, 08:30 PM

Someday I'll find that fat one! I wonder if that one was first? The original.

Domer05 · #12 09-06-2019, 11:22 PM

Here is the subsequent version of the Coliseum/stadium pennant by Trench. As you can see, this artwork looks more like the others from that era. The stadium is very detailed; in color; and, full of spectators. The angle of the stadium is also a bit different from the red version discussed earlier.

This bum character was originally created by Willard Mullin. Trench used him on their Ebbets Field/stadium pennant too, made several years earlier. I believe Trench also used a Mullin drawn mascot on several NY/SF Giants pennants from the 1950s. So, apparently this mystery artist had a thing for Mr. Mullin's work.

There's a third version that uses the same batter seen on the red Coliseum pennant above--but, with the updated rendition of the Coliseum shown below. I believe they miniaturized this variant and sold it as part of an NL pennant string, as mentioned above.

perezfan · #13 09-06-2019, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Domer05

I knew you'd finally come around, Rob. Let your inner Dodger fan out. You're among friends here....

I think we discussed this red Coliseum pennant earlier. The batter, in particular, we identified as being associated with Trench's pennants from that era. But, while I still believe Trench made this pennant, the rest of the artwork doesn't match the many, many other stadium pennants Trench made in the 1950s and 60s.

This Coliseum, in particular, is mostly empty. 92,000 empty seats, that is. Most of Trench's stadium pennants, including a subsequent version depicting the Coliseum with a Willard Mullin bum standing over the field, depict full stadiums--illustrated by a random pattern of multi-colored circles representing spectators. Not here.

The only other Trench pennant like this that comes to mind is the San Francisco Giants pennant showing the very same Trench batter standing over an illustration of Seals Stadium. That one, we agreed, looked like it was by Trench; but, again, the ballpark was drawn empty.

(I know you own it, so I'll let you post it in your response.)

I wonder if maybe the normal Trench artist was on vacation in April of 1958, when I suspect both were made?

It is definitely a Trench Pennant. I used to own a string of National League Mini Pennants, which featured all of the NL teams' pennants sewn to a long black spine. I'm sure most of you have seen these at some point in time...

Anyway, this same Dodgers version (in mini) was included along with the more familiar Trench Mascots like Mr. Red, the Batting Cardinal, the screaming Brave and the Pirate. I wish I still had it to show here, but am 100% certain that it is Trench.

Great pennant, Rob (I love "off-color" versions like this!)

ooo-ribay · #14 09-06-2019, 07:08 PM

Hey bocca, did you know there's also a "fat font" version? Just like the d**gers pennant, they have a crudely drawn "diamond."

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