Opinions on Babe Ruth cuts

perezfan · #1 09-19-2019, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by yanksfan09

to say all cuts are fake is a facile argument that is the easiest thing to say. However it's far more complex in reality if people actually want to look at it on a case by case basis.

Yes it's an easy medium to fake. But on the flipside, it's also maybe the most common form , or one of them, of LEGITIMATE vintage signatures...

do your own homework.

Agree... excellent post, IMO.

That said, both of the Ruth cuts pictured are bad.

RichardSimon · #2 09-20-2019, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by perezfan

Agree... excellent post, IMO.

That said, both of the Ruth cuts pictured are bad.

Ron Dross and Dave Zimmerman were two prolific forgers back in the early days of forgery. Dave only did his forgeries on cuts. Ron did mostly cuts and he was the "author" of the infamous B&W HOF plak forgeries. Their cuts still are circulating in the hobby

. The last sentence in my signature here applies to both of these men.

todeen · #3 09-20-2019, 10:09 PM

I'm not an autograph authenticator. But here's my two bits: considering that most people here said the Ruth autos are bad, I took that into consideration. I looked at the PSA website at their "legitimate" examples, and determined that your two examples have the "R" going way too far in both instances. On PSA's website, Ruth's R usually stops between the "u" and the "t", whereas it seems that both of yours extend beyond the "t" and stop at the "h." There are plenty of autos there for you to compare.

https://www.psacard.com/autographfac...l/babe-ruth/42

As for consideration that all cut signatures are fake, in my opinion, is crap. I think you would be well served if they could provide you provenance with their signature, but as others have said, autograph books were a very popular way to collect autographs. I bought a Rogers Hornsby cut signature, and the seller provided provenance from where he got it. I didn't like it because the signature appeared lighter in person than in the photos - I thought he darkened the ebay photo to make the signature appear bolder, so I resold it. But it was real.

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