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Exactly.
There is no doubt whatsoever that the case is still being worked on. I expect more legal (authorities) issues for the culprits than I do personal lawsuits, though there still could be some.

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Exactly.
There is no doubt whatsoever that the case is still being worked on. I expect more legal (authorities) issues for the culprits than I do personal lawsuits, though there still could be some.
Still everyone said give it time for the personal lawsuits and its been more than enough time now. Its actually quite normal for personal lawsuits to go first and not the criminal authority first. Not sure what happened with Mastro if he was sued personally but most times when money is lost by a victim, whether ponzi scheme or whatever theres a lawsuit way before the criminal action as its much easier route. It would appear there are not many 'victim's (people sue for anything and doesnt appear to a victim willing to sue)

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The 10s just keep coming. Something, IMO, is very wrong here.
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The 10s just keep coming. Something, IMO, is very wrong here.
C'mon Peter, it's just some savvy collectors and businessmen who have a keen eye for bumpworthy cards.
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C'mon Peter, it's just some savvy collectors and businessmen who have a keen eye for bumpworthy cards.
Some are clearly trimmed. Look at the Gaylord Perry for example. And there's a second issue here, even indulging the assumption that some of these cards are not trimmed, the number of vintage 10s within one sub is staggering and dramatically out of line with the experience of other long-time dealers, who get a vintage 10 once in a blue moon even on virgin high grade material, and who have to resubmit constantly to get cards into their right holders. Something is not sitting right with me.
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"resubmit constantly to get cards into their right holders"

Wow, that is some statement about the state of card grading.
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Wow, that is some statement about the state of card grading.
Yep, but that's how it is for the common man/non-inside dealer. And what's really astonishing is the variance in grades a given card can receive on its journey.
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Wow, that is some statement about the state of card grading.
I mean, have you ever heard of people being so damned MORONIC?
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Some are clearly trimmed. Look at the Gaylord Perry for example. And there's a second issue here, even indulging the assumption that some of these cards are not trimmed, the number of vintage 10s within one sub is staggering and dramatically out of line with the experience of other long-time dealers, who get a vintage 10 once in a blue moon even on virgin high grade material, and who have to resubmit constantly to get cards into their right holders. Something is not sitting right with me.
Clearly I forgot to use the sarcasm font.
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The 10s just keep coming. Something, IMO, is very wrong here.
A scam? The hell you say...
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Sometimes feel like I'm the only person who has never resubmitted a card. Silly me I thought the grade was the grade was the grade...
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I hope microtrimming never ever becomes acceptable....
Does PSA even look at edges or grain of a cards borders ??
Or is that biased on whom is submitting the cards?
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The bigger question is why people put so much faith in what the self-appointed experts say? Especially since they've proven time and again that they can't detect alteration. And why such huge premiums are paid for slab numbers that are at best variable, and subject to change on a whim.

Other than the money/greed/ego aspect, I will never understand this segment of collecting.
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