Wrong front images on vintage cards.....show us what you have

z28jd · #1 09-27-2019, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by bigfanNY

They are Irv Young who looks nothing like Cy. I have owned both the E97 and E 98 Cy Youngs and I did not like either one. And today I do not have any Irv Young cards I'm my PC. So just to clarify none of the cards shown are mine. Am I the only one who has a problem wrapping my head around this?? I mean if you are going to spend Cy Young money dont you want Cy Young to be on the card???

Many people don't know this, but Irv Young was often referred to as Cy Young, so they really didn't make an error with his name. By that time when the card was released, the original Cy Young was often called Old Cy Young. Heck, even 1908 pitcher Harley Young was called Cy and he went 0-for-3 in his only season in the majors.

The early years of baseball had no issue reusing nicknames for people with the same last name. Best example is that four players with the last name Freeman had the nickname Buck.

bigfanNY · #2 09-27-2019, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by z28jd

Many people don't know this, but Irv Young was often referred to as Cy Young, so they really didn't make an error with his name. By that time when the card was released, the original Cy Young was often called Old Cy Young. Heck, even 1908 pitcher Harley Young was called Cy and he went 0-for-3 in his only season in the majors.

The early years of baseball had no issue reusing nicknames for people with the same last name. Best example is that four players with the last name Freeman had the nickname Buck.

Well Irv might have picked up the nickname but he never played for Cleveland. And my point was folks pay large sums of money for a Cy Young of Clevland card and that is not what they get. I would guess that if PSA changed the flips to say who was really on the cards they would loose a significant portion of their value. I was at a Willow grove show in the early 90's with
A Briggs Young and I told 2 guys who were looking at it that it wasn't really Cy Young and they didn't buy. Sold it later to a guy working on the set who knew what it was.

tedzan · #3 09-27-2019, 08:20 PM

Furthermore,
the E90-1 Cleveland version of Cy Young is actually an image of Irv Young

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TED Z

T206 Reference
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z28jd · #4 09-29-2019, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by bigfanNY

Well Irv might have picked up the nickname but he never played for Cleveland. And my point was folks pay large sums of money for a Cy Young of Clevland card and that is not what they get. I would guess that if PSA changed the flips to say who was really on the cards they would loose a significant portion of their value. I was at a Willow grove show in the early 90's with
A Briggs Young and I told 2 guys who were looking at it that it wasn't really Cy Young and they didn't buy. Sold it later to a guy working on the set who knew what it was.

There are Boston versions of that pose that came out first. Team was changed to Cleveland afterwards. That's the error on the card, not the fact that they used Irv Young on a Cy Young card. It was issued as an Irv Young card first and his nickname at the time was Cy, so there was no mistake on the card the first time it was issued. The card below has no error on the front, just like the black and white Briggs version

(not my card)

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