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Old 09-30-2019, 07:51 AM
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I haven't heard of any fatalities resulting from altered/overgraded baseball cards yet?
so there are never any lawsuits for anything other than if there are fatalities...

altered cards involve money, you are right nobody ever sues or no crime occurs because of money....
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Old 09-30-2019, 08:24 AM
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Old 09-30-2019, 08:30 AM
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To me the market or lack of buyers is what will Stop or Slow down the fraud/manipulation. By now If people still don’t get it they never will.
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Old 09-30-2019, 06:57 PM
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so there are never any lawsuits for anything other than if there are fatalities...

altered cards involve money, you are right nobody ever sues or no crime occurs because of money....
You’re a civil lawyer and you’ve been beating the drums for months about suing PSA. Surely you must have a bunch of clients by now, no? After all who would potential litigants go to but you? When I was talking about Mastro’s fraud I had a number of Net 54 members who hired me to go after Mastro and his co-conspirators and multiple people got six figures back from them. So how many have you signed up?
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You’re a civil lawyer and you’ve been beating the drums for months about suing PSA. Surely you must have a bunch of clients by now, no? After all who would potential litigants go to but you? When I was talking about Mastro’s fraud I had a number of Net 54 members who hired me to go after Mastro and his co-conspirators and multiple people got six figures back from them. So how many have you signed up?
I would like to go after PSA, but I suspect "They made all the cards I want more expensive" isn't going to really work to show I have any actual damages....Especially since they've made the cards I do own more expensive as well.
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Old 10-01-2019, 02:42 PM
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You’re a civil lawyer and you’ve been beating the drums for months about suing PSA. Surely you must have a bunch of clients by now, no? After all who would potential litigants go to but you? When I was talking about Mastro’s fraud I had a number of Net 54 members who hired me to go after Mastro and his co-conspirators and multiple people got six figures back from them. So how many have you signed up?
My point is that there is nothing wrong really (and not to the extent of a mass issue ) because there are no lawsuits. Mastro fraud i agree there was something going on and thats why there were many people filing lawsuits/claims for lots of money

In this trimming issue there are no lawsuits so all of these complaining on the board seems odd considering there are no lawsuits. If it was such a big deal why arent there lawsuits. It appears everyone is getting paid back and/or happy is my point. Its been a long enough wait at this point for something to have happened. You are making my point. Thanks
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My point is that there is nothing wrong really (and not to the extent of a mass issue ) because there are no lawsuits. Mastro fraud i agree there was something going on and thats why there were many people filing lawsuits/claims for lots of money

In this trimming issue there are no lawsuits so all of these complaining on the board seems odd considering there are no lawsuits. If it was such a big deal why arent there lawsuits. It appears everyone is getting paid back and/or happy is my point. Its been a long enough wait at this point for something to have happened. You are making my point. Thanks
There was one lawsuit against Mastro and it was a countersuit -- I know because I brought it. And many miserable victims, many of whom got paid back without having to resort to litigation. This is how it works sometimes, understood at least by most competent lawyers.

As for my point, the reason you aren't getting any calls from any potential litigants against PSA is, well, I think we both know. Even the second biggest dullard on the board understands.
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There was one lawsuit against Mastro and it was a countersuit -- I know because I brought it. And many miserable victims, many of whom got paid back without having to resort to litigation. This is how it works sometimes, understood at least by most competent lawyers.

As for my point, the reason you aren't getting any calls from any potential litigants against PSA is, well, I think we both know. Even the second biggest dullard on the board understands.
the point is that nobody is getting any calls to file suit. If this is an earth shattering deal, to have zero lawsuits at this point says something is all i am saying. With Mastro there was at least one lawsuit......like i said with the trimming issue with PSA, people must be happy with the outcome/getting paid back/satisfied, again you prove my point...
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the point is that nobody is getting any calls to file suit. If this is an earth shattering deal, to have zero lawsuits at this point says something is all i am saying. With Mastro there was at least one lawsuit......like i said with the trimming issue with PSA, people must be happy with the outcome/getting paid back/satisfied, again you prove my point...
I’m not proving your point at all except for the one on top of your head. Just because strip mall lawyers don’t get calls to go after PSA doesn’t mean other lawyers aren’t. There was only one lawsuit brought against Mastro — does that mean that all his victims were otherwise happy? Your logic or lack thereof is the reason why you have no knowledge of potential litigants lining up against PSA. Just admit it: you know nothing firsthand about any of the legal issues here.
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I'm not happy with any of this crap, but I have no grounds for filing any lawsuits against anyone. So just because there are no lawsuits doesn't mean everyone is happy. I'm quite the opposite as happy. And a lot of other people are just an unhappy about the whole thing as I am. To make the argument that no lawsuits means everyone is happy is just unreal. And every time this argument is made it makes for an easy target for ridicule.
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I’m not proving your point at all except for the one on top of your head. Just because strip mall lawyers don’t get calls to go after PSA doesn’t mean other lawyers aren’t. There was only one lawsuit brought against Mastro — does that mean that all his victims were otherwise happy? Your logic or lack thereof is the reason why you have no knowledge of potential litigants lining up against PSA. Just admit it: you know nothing firsthand about any of the legal issues here.

Its interesting that almost every comment you make has an insult in it. We all know about people who find they have to belittle people.

I am making a point. There are no lawsuits. Only takes one major suit to help resolve other potential cases so having one lawsuit is a big deal versus zero.

There is no final answer that you have or I have as to why there arent any. We all have are viewpoints. I am free to make my own point and you are free to make your point.

Even people not in penthouse lawyer offices are free to make our points known. The fact you bother to reply to little ole me shows me something. I assume you will again respond with an nursery school insult and raise your dorsal fin but again you will feel the need to say something. Thats the funny thing.
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