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Old 10-11-2019, 10:09 PM
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I don't understand why, with all the advances in training and medical knowledge, starting pitchers today are such snowflakes that you have to start to worry about their pitch count after 5 innings, even when they have an extra day of rest than used to be the norm. How often do you think their managers were worried that Spahn, or Gibby, or Seaver, or Carlton had thrown too many pitches?
It's all about being on the hook for the pitcher's contract. Spahn, Gibby, Seaver and Carlton weren't making 20+million a year with 4 or 5 years left on a contract. Mangers are told to "manage" so that they get the most out of them for a potential win, and then use the bullpen. I miss the old days.
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The percentage of wins credited to starters is decreasing faster than their salaries are increasing.

If Spahn was given to the hook based on a pitch count, he wouldn’t have won over 300 games, unless, of course, the early hooks allowed him to pitch into his 60s.
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Warren Spahn at age 42 tossed a league leading 22 complete games.
For his career, he completed 57 percent of his starts.
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Warren Spahn at age 42 tossed a league leading 22 complete games.
For his career, he completed 57 percent of his starts.
I suspect that the stats for the HOF pre-War pitchers will show even higher percentages of starts completed: for example:

WaJo completed 531 or 79.7% of his 666 regular season starts.
Matty completed 435 or 78.8% of his 552 regular season starts.
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