Analysis of PWCC Vintage Auction 10/13/19

davidan · #1 10-19-2019, 04:56 PM

Thanks for all the feedback and concern (to look out for me) on the Mantle guys. Decided to do some measuring and analysis of this card and a 51 Bowman Mays I have side by side this afternoon.

I am pretty convinced the Mantle is NOT trimmed.

First of all, the cards both measure exactly under heavy magnification 3 1/4 inch wide. I will admit top to bottom the mantle seems to have slightly more air space in the case than the Mays, but under a lot of measuring (I must have done it 10 times magnified) the Mantle is maybe a 64th of an inch shorter than the Mays, and I am not even sure by that much, it's about dead on the line. They both are right at 2 1/16 tall.

Furthermore the corner wear on all 4 corners of the Mantle appear to be very natural as are the edges. With naked eye and magnification I can't see any signs of tampering and I think myself and/or PSA would have noticed something on those corners if it were off.

Regardless, and I have shared a picture of the card in hand, it's a real beauty!

I am a collector, not an investor, and I put in my bid thinking no way I'd win it at a price I was comfortable with and I got it --

It's a card I have wanted to own since I was a kid, and while I can appreciate and am not naive to the fact there are a lot of assholes out there, not going to let it ruin my enjoyment of the card. It's a shame that as with a lot of things in life that all it takes is a few idiots out there to try and ruin the fun for the rest of us. So I get it.

appreciate the feedback

images

https://imgur.com/Ikkbvve

https://imgur.com/nh1213v

https://imgur.com/GE1kCUC

https://imgur.com/WrwFWEr

https://imgur.com/1PCune7

https://imgur.com/0geVWyT

#2 10-19-2019, 05:35 PM

Everything looks fine to me. Congrats on the pickup!

perezfan · #3 10-19-2019, 05:45 PM

It does look like natural corner and edge wear.... albeit pretty significant wear for a "4" grade. Great close-up shots!

Fuddjcal · #4 10-25-2019, 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davidan

Thanks for all the feedback and concern (to look out for me) on the Mantle guys. Decided to do some measuring and analysis of this card and a 51 Bowman Mays I have side by side this afternoon.

I am pretty convinced the Mantle is NOT trimmed.

First of all, the cards both measure exactly under heavy magnification 3 1/4 inch wide. I will admit top to bottom the mantle seems to have slightly more air space in the case than the Mays, but under a lot of measuring (I must have done it 10 times magnified) the Mantle is maybe a 64th of an inch shorter than the Mays, and I am not even sure by that much, it's about dead on the line. They both are right at 2 1/16 tall.

Furthermore the corner wear on all 4 corners of the Mantle appear to be very natural as are the edges. With naked eye and magnification I can't see any signs of tampering and I think myself and/or PSA would have noticed something on those corners if it were off.

Regardless, and I have shared a picture of the card in hand, it's a real beauty!

I am a collector, not an investor, and I put in my bid thinking no way I'd win it at a price I was comfortable with and I got it --

It's a card I have wanted to own since I was a kid, and while I can appreciate and am not naive to the fact there are a lot of assholes out there, not going to let it ruin my enjoyment of the card. It's a shame that as with a lot of things in life that all it takes is a few idiots out there to try and ruin the fun for the rest of us. So I get it.

appreciate the feedback

images

https://imgur.com/Ikkbvve

https://imgur.com/nh1213v

https://imgur.com/GE1kCUC

https://imgur.com/WrwFWEr

https://imgur.com/1PCune7

https://imgur.com/0geVWyT

good for you... and you bought it from Brent Mastro, the biggest crook the baseball card hobby has ever seen. I would rather wipe my ass with a brillo pad. Enjoy it.

Stampsfan · #5 10-25-2019, 01:53 PM

Way to rain on his parade. Wow. Where is that "Respect" thread now?

What happened to "Enjoy what you buy"?

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