1925 Exhibit Lou Gehrig, Is this real?

[mintacular]

Just for kicks I sent this to comc and they listed as

1925 Exhibits White Box Lou Gehrig Poor to Fair.

What do I do now?

[SMPEP]

Wait ... everyone who's opinion you asked said it was fake ... real experts opined ... and you're allowing COMC to list this as real???

Wow.

[whitehse]

If you were sure this was a reprint why would you send it to COMC and now you want opinions as to what to do?

Where is the eye roll emoji when I need one.

[mintacular]

I have not listed it. I had the card laying around and figured what they hey send it with my next comc batch it will probably get a reprint or whatever designation but maybe someone would buy it for $5.

[mintacular]

I would NEVER knowingly defraud anyone. But what if they could be right? In the original collection there was some legit older stuff and while the 4 or 5 posters gave their OPINION that it is a likely reprint, what if it's not?

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by mintacular

1925 Exhibits White Box Lou Gehrig Poor to Fair.

What do I do now?

Send them an email or call them and ask that they authenticate it. They may want you to pay the $2 COMC Condition Review in the Grading options. They will not allow you to list counterfeits, only authorized reprints. So you might get it sent back to you instead.
I don't see it in the "Sold Out" listings for 1925 Exhibits. Can you send the link to the page the card is on?

[Exhibitman]

If you legitimately believe that there’s any chance that this thing is genuine then send it to a legit TPG for confirmation. If not, get it back from COMC or make them add reprint to the listing. Doing what you’re doing now lacks integrity.

[mintacular]

Adam, what are you talking about? I haven't listed the card for sale it is sitting in my port. It was sent in to sell as a reprint for $5 or so but someone at COMC graded it authentic, so I'm at the phase trying to get the correct determination. The unethical thing for me to do right now is list that card with a high price. Understand the OPINIONS I got from the board members were based on scans and those folks even cautioned me their opinion is not the same as if they could hold the card in hand. I can't tell you how many times I've posted a card on a message board and the opinions didn't bear out. For example, I bought two raw '80 BB Henderson RC that I thought could get 8s, and posted them. Almost every single poster commented that they would get less than 8 based on this and that. I sent them in. Both cards got 8s

[mintacular]

I decided to pay $2 for a COMC condition review, we will see what happens.

[griffon512]

Patrick,

I think you have a legitimate quandary. Your Gehrig deviates the most from authentic Gehrigs in a few areas: 1. the yellowish tint on the front and back of the card does not look like typical toning of an authentic '25 Gehrig. Here's an example: https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball/1...umbnail-071515. 2. The roughly even corner wear bothers me. It may have been fabricated to look aged. 3. The stock showing signs of wear are not typical of a 100 year old card.

It's difficult to tell from your pics, but based on these deviations from norm I think the odds of this being authentic are 10-15%.

I suggest you do a couple things. 1. Buy a black light (they're available for under $10) and see how it looks in a completely dark room using that device. If it does not fluoresce or only shows dim brightening under a black light here's a very good chance the paper stock is pre-1950s. If it fluoresces brightly it's a modern reprint. Though not every card that does not fluoresce is vintage (read this article: https://sabrbaseballcards.blog/2017/...uthentication/), most are. Every card that does fluoresce is modern (post late 1940's optical brighteners were added to most paper and these brighteners will glow when exposed to UV light) as far as I know. You can compare how it looks under a black light versus other 20's or 30's cards or post 1950's cards if you have those in your collection. Depending on how this goes you want to go to step 2. Call SGC and ask them if they will give you a discounted rate to review it. It might not be worth it if it costs you over $300 to review it and in all likelihood it comes back as not authentic after review, so you're going to have make a determination based on an expected value equation. You could also sell it raw -- hopefully with all the appropriate caveats for transparency -- and let someone else decide what to do with it.

[Peter_Spaeth]

If I thought there was a ghost of a chance this was real, given what it would be worth, I would pay SGC or PSA to review it. I cannot understand why, since you claim to still cling to that ghost of a chance, you haven't done the same. A $2 COMC review, what's that?

Why not auction it here and cross reference this thread? Let this group decide.