Outed cards, now including a 130K gain on an Aaron rookie

[Johnny630]

58 White Letter Goes From a 8.5 to a 10 please check out.
BODA Corndog

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showth...90614&page=237

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by Johnny630

58 White Letter Goes From a 8.5 to a 10 please check out.
BODA Corndog

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showth...90614&page=237

This problem lies with the "idiots" paying $40K for a pristine...altered...4th year clemente card.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

This problem lies with the "idiots" paying $40K for a pristine...altered...4th year clemente card.

I am sorry to correct you. They paid for a flip saying PSA 10.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I am sorry to correct you. They paid for a flip saying PSA 10.

i stand corrected...and I stand by calling this behavior "idiotic!"

[Johnny630]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

i stand corrected...and I stand by calling this behavior "idiotic!"

You’re right !!!

I don’t buy those sales numbers not for one second !!!

[Leon]

While I agree it is their money, if they want to waste it on altered cards, it is their business. Bless their hearts. A fool and his money....

Originally Posted by ullmandds

i stand corrected...and I stand by calling this behavior "idiotic!"

[Johnny630]

I agree with you Pete..... however The Problem Lies with PSA too........

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

This problem lies with the "idiots" paying $40K for a pristine...altered...4th year clemente card.

Again, no lawsuits so people are obviously still happy/being reimbursed...

some people said why would there be lawsuits over cards that are less than 10k at issue but i think everyone will agree now there appears to be a number of cards with potential damages of over 10k...heck over 200k etc.....still it appears everyone is happy....hard to say this is rocking the hobby and 40k+ grade increases keep happening when no lawsuits filed...people appear to be happy or dont care.....basically there dont appear to be any victims....

i know i know...'its too early to tell etc'

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

again, no lawsuits so people are obviously still happy/being reimbursed...

Some people said why would there be lawsuits over cards that are less than 10k at issue but i think everyone will agree now there appears to be a number of cards with potential damages of over 10k...heck over 200k etc.....still it appears everyone is happy....hard to say this is rocking the hobby and 40k+ grade increases keep happening when no lawsuits filed...people appear to be happy or dont care.....basically there dont appear to be any victims....

I know i know...'its too early to tell etc'

stoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

stoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp

I think people are tired of saying there are all these problems but nothing has changed.

[perezfan]

We are indeed tired and frustrated, yes...

But we also realize it takes more time for this to fully play out. I personally don't want the FBI to make snap decisions to include a few slaps on the wrist. I'm hoping they conduct a deep and involved investigation, in which all the connected dealers, card doctors and TPGs are identified, exposed to the public, put out of business, and punished accordingly.

The deeper they investigate, the more likely it is that they'll find the damning evidence they need to convict. New fraud and corruption is turning up every single day. So it's probably a good thing that this is dragging on.

[Johnny630]

Originally Posted by perezfan

We are indeed tired and frustrated, yes...

But we also realize it takes more time for this to fully play out. I personally don't want the FBI to make snap decisions to include a few slaps on the wrist. I'm hoping they conduct a deep and involved investigation, in which all the connected dealers, card doctors and TPGs are identified, exposed to the public, put out of business, and punished accordingly.

The deeper they investigate, the more likely it is that they'll find the damning evidence they need to convict. New fraud and corruption is turning up every single day. So it's probably a good thing that this is dragging on.

Mark I hope you’re right sir ! You’re much more optimistic then me on how we see this all playing out. Everything is fake to me....the sales...the registry....and most definitely hundreds of thousands of cards with grades that are doctored.