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Old 11-16-2019, 08:26 AM
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Look N' See for yourself lol.

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Old 11-16-2019, 02:33 PM
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He butchered those .....I know this set very well, borders were never meant to be that thin. Total disgrace from Newport Beach :-(
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Old 11-16-2019, 02:57 PM
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Moser is on his way to legendary status.
A true pioneer and villain of the hobby.
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Old 11-17-2019, 11:50 AM
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Moser is on his way to legendary status.
A true pioneer and villain of the hobby.
He is a cancer to the hobby. He will definitely do some time.
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Old 11-17-2019, 12:07 PM
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130K gain on this one from a little color filling on the top border and under the E in Henry and it looks like a couple of other places -- from the rough cuts must be the same card, not to mention someone who knows and I trust told me they were the same card.

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Old 11-17-2019, 12:15 PM
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Closeups. Sorry I am sure someone could do this better.
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Closeups. Sorry I am sure someone could do this better.
In PSA's defense, I'm not sure how anyone could detect those alterations. I'm looking at the two cards magnified and still would not be able to detect this one.
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Old 11-17-2019, 01:14 PM
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Unlike many of the recently exposed (and easily identified) hack-jobs, that one looks REALLY sophisticated. Some meticulous work by that particular Doctor.

Hard to believe it's the same card, but it undoubtedly is.
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Old 11-19-2019, 10:55 AM
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130K gain on this one from a little color filling on the top border and under the E in Henry and it looks like a couple of other places -- from the rough cuts must be the same card, not to mention someone who knows and I trust told me they were the same card.
Peter - can the person who knows clarify if that is color filling or if it is some fibers that were removed? If that work is truly color filling, it is astonishing.
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Peter - can the person who knows clarify if that is color filling or if it is some fibers that were removed? If that work is truly color filling, it is astonishing.
It had to be paper fibers or external debris on the front of the card. That background dot pattern could never be replicated by hand. Probably an easy removal... stuff sometimes gets between the card and the holder.

As for the reverse.... the green background at/around the corners was filled in.
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Old 11-16-2019, 04:38 PM
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Cracks me up how PSA will deduct heavily for microscopic/miniscule paper loss. Yet when a huge percentage of the borders are hacked off, the card gets bumped up 3 grades. I guess that's not paper loss in their opinion.

Card looked far better as a "6", and some fat-walleted slabhead payed 113 times more for the "Mini" version. Imagine starting a thread... If you had $1,827 to spend on any card you wanted, what card would you pick?
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Cracks me up how PSA will deduct heavily for microscopic/miniscule paper loss. Yet when a huge percentage of the borders are hacked off, the card gets bumped up 3 grades. I guess that's not paper loss in their opinion.

Card looked far better as a "6", and some fat-walleted slabhead payed 113 times more for the "Mini" version. Imagine starting a thread... If you had $1,827 to spend on any card you wanted, what card would you pick?
The other part of that Look N See card.

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Oh, jeez. A $16 card turned into an $1,843 card.
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So someone spends $55k on a card, cracks it, restores it themself or trusts someone enough to have it restored all without knowing FOR SURE that its going to get a bump in grade?
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So someone spends $55k on a card, cracks it, restores it themself or trusts someone enough to have it restored all without knowing FOR SURE that its going to get a bump in grade?
Why would you assume they don't know what grade they are going to receive?
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Old 11-17-2019, 07:42 PM
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Why would you assume they don't know what grade they are going to receive?
To know what grade you are going to get from PSA would require someone at PSA to be in on the deal would it not?
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