Mets were 14-18 when Degrom started for them

[Jim65]

Originally Posted by packs

I don't think either of his CY winning seasons were as impressive as Zach Greinke's in 2009. He went 16-8 on a team that only won 65 games. Not only did he win nearly 25 percent of all the games the Royals won that year, but his 242 strike outs accounted for about 20 percent of the entire team's total. His 229 innings were about 16 percent of all innings pitched that year too.

Nice year, not as impressive as Steve Carlton winning 27 games in 1972 for a Phillies team that went 59-97

[packs]

Originally Posted by Jim65

Nice year, not as impressive as Steve Carlton winning 27 games in 1972 for a Phillies team that went 59-97

Definitely not. But more impressive than deGrom.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Carlton is first on this list of great seasons for bad teams.

https://www.mlb.com/news/best-mlb-se...ams-c295838598

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Jim65

Nice year, not as impressive as Steve Carlton winning 27 games in 1972 for a Phillies team that went 59-97

right if his team won 14 of 32 games, i wouldn't question that at all, that would actually be impressive. His run support was 3.83 and he didnt cry about it

Of course from 1986 , 4 out of 5 teams he played for his era was over 5.00