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Old 11-29-2019, 02:12 PM
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Don't forget lack of awareness of the problem. If 90% of the PSA collectors knew how bad it is, it would impact the market and PSA would have to step up and at least make some gesture of mitigating the problem. Historically, their motto has been, "Silence is golden."
Also as said before..if no lawsuits...why should anything change...everyone seems fine enough or happy with the result....

people go on and on about nothing will change...yet if i say no lawsuits. people criticize this premise and say why do i bring it up over and over again..

yet people keep saying nothing will change over and over and over again....without any criticism..

we will say its early still but also i hearing, nothing will likely happen as well so its double talk..
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Old 11-29-2019, 04:27 PM
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we will say its early still but also i hearing, nothing will likely happen as well so its double talk..
Who is actually speaking to you about the criminal investigation or the lack of any civil litigation? Who has told you what will “likely happen”? Who are the source of what “i hearing”?
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Old 11-29-2019, 06:51 PM
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Who is actually speaking to you about the criminal investigation or the lack of any civil litigation? Who has told you what will “likely happen”? Who are the source of what “i hearing”?
Jake has connections, apparently.
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Old 11-30-2019, 10:32 AM
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If nothing else, a stunning statement of the power of the flip and the Registry, and the ability of PSA to print money for people.

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If nothing else, a stunning statement of the power of the flip and the Registry, and the ability of PSA to print money for people.

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Peter these cards are my pride and Joy, the Look N See set. What these people did to these cards is disgusting and shameful. These are obvious Hack Trimmed Short Jobs!!
Worse off is Newport Beach doesn’t know their Ass from a Hole in the Ground when it comes to properly grading these cards !!
Never in 30 years of handling these cards have I ever seen borders this thin.
If PSA is this stupid which I think otherwise now then they have know business grading these.
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If nothing else, a stunning statement of the power of the flip and the Registry, and the ability of PSA to print money for people.

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Old 11-30-2019, 02:29 PM
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Oops.

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Makes you wonder how many of these 1950's 9's and 10's have been
worked on with all the ones that keep getting pointed out by BODA.
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Old 11-30-2019, 11:19 AM
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This one wont even make the Mexican Maraca Mt. Rushmore....damages under $10,000
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Old 11-30-2019, 11:15 AM
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Jake has connections, apparently.
There have been no civil lawsuits. Please correct me if i am wrong. It was you that said 'in an unlikely event spit hits the fan etc' in regards to PSA and stock price falling due to what i assume would be issues with liability with the trimming/grading issues. Thus, thats where i came up with the term unlikely event about something negative impacting PSA through all of this......dont need connections.....

if you think its likely PSA stock will plummet due to the scandal, again pleased correct me if i am wrong on what you meant.
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There have been no civil lawsuits. Please correct me if i am wrong. It was you that said 'in an unlikely event spit hits the fan etc' in regards to PSA and stock price falling due to what i assume would be issues with liability with the trimming/grading issues. Thus, thats where i came up with the term unlikely event about something negative impacting PSA through all of this......dont need connections.....

if you think its likely PSA stock will plummet due to the scandal, again pleased correct me if i am wrong on what you meant.
So Peter is your source as to what will “likely” happen criminally and civilly? And otherwise your knowledge going forward is based on the lack of any present civil litigation as per mentioned on the board? Have you done any searching of lawsuits nationally in any online databases? Spoken to the FBI? Spoken to any lawyers representing targets or subjects in a criminal investigation? Guessing no on all counts.
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I am worthless as a source of anything but speculation, Jake, I assure you.
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Regarding the Vespucci Card that magically received the phantom 2-point bump, for the corrupt "frequent submitter" Johnny Adams Jr...

For what they charge, you'd think PSA could find a way to get the card positioned straight within the holder. People always defend professional grading with the excuse "I just like the way they look in the holders". To me, these tilting "condom cards" look dreadful. What an ugly way to display a $6,500.00 piece of cardboard.
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