Outed cards, now including a 130K gain on an Aaron rookie

Peter_Spaeth · #1 12-03-2019, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JeremyW

PWWC can't absorb all of these possible returns, can they?

Maybe Johnny will pitch in to try to save himself with the government.

Johnny630 · #2 12-03-2019, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Maybe Johnny will pitch in to try to save himself with the government.

Who is gonna Gonna Roll First ?

perezfan · #3 12-03-2019, 07:35 PM

Just imagine if there was a way to notify all of these "winning" bidders that they paid an enormous premium for a fake PSA card?

What's been revealed to date likely represents under 2% of all the slabbed/numbered/altered cards in circulation. But what if that measly 2% were made aware of how badly they were duped? And what if that 2% all submitted for refunds? It would create enough liability to bankrupt the entire Mount Rushmore of "Bad Actors"... Johnny, Gary, Brent and Joe O.

If eBay never made their misguided decision to block identities, the sh*t would've already hit the fan.

Johnny630 · #4 12-03-2019, 07:36 PM

The old squeeze play might occur on a few of these crum bums

ALBB · #5 12-03-2019, 07:48 PM

Been following this for a long time

very interesting...how many " duped" big time collectors ...who got ripped off to the tune of -?..$500-$2000 ....what have they done about it ?

Im guessing a lot of anger...maybe embarrassment ( imagine telling a loved one or friend what happened ? ) people you know who have often said to you over the years - " Dude, you crazy spending that kind of money on baseball cards ".... Do you tell them ?

Do you call PSA ( yea right ! ) and demand a full refund

Do you break the card out of the slab ( to prevent this from ever happening again ? ) ..and then stare at the $1500 mistake you made ?

Do you pretend the card is still legit....even though the proof is there ?

Peter_Spaeth · #6 12-03-2019, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by perezfan

Just imagine if there was a way to notify all of these "winning" bidders that they paid an enormous premium for a fake PSA card?

What's been revealed to date likely represents under 2% of all the slabbed/numbered/altered cards in circulation. But what if that measly 2% were made aware of how badly they were duped? And what if that 2% all submitted for refunds? It would create enough liability to bankrupt the entire Mount Rushmore of "Bad Actors"... Johnny, Gary, Brent and Joe O.

If eBay never made their misguided decision to block identities, the sh*t would've already hit the fan.

I believe that where cards are listed on the registry, the BODA guys make an effort to contact the owners.

There have also been instances where PWCC has notified winning bidders.

Peter_Spaeth · #7 12-03-2019, 07:52 PM

Ebay was certainly a better place where you could track what the known card doctors were buying, and you could see who was bidding stuff up.

perezfan · #8 12-03-2019, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Ebay was certainly a better place where you could track what the known card doctors were buying, and you could see who was bidding stuff up.

… and you could effortlessly message both the Buyers and Sellers. I used to reach out to winning bidders to congratulate them, and sometimes offer them an instant profit if I fell asleep at the wheel. It was a very useful feature. Just imagine if eBay re-enabled that function. Thousands of fraud victims could easily be made right in no time.

Peter_Spaeth · #9 12-03-2019, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by perezfan

� and you could effortlessly message both the Buyers and Sellers. I used to reach out to winning bidders to congratulate them, and sometimes offer them an instant profit if I fell asleep at the wheel. It was a very useful feature. Just imagine if eBay re-enabled that function. Thousands of fraud victims could easily be made right in no time.

Ebay is not interested in preventing fraud, we know that.

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