Anyone prefer Beckett to PSA?

[Rhotchkiss]

No.

[JackW]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

No.

As usual, Ryan is spot-on.

[Leon]

Personally I think BVG is the best grader of vintage material. As far as market value for holders, PSA has the best marketing. Just my half cent.
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[Tyruscobb]

BVG's holders are too thick. Plus, the encased penny sleeve takes away from the card's presentation. It is sometimes wrinkly and caused glare.

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by Tyruscobb

BVG's holders are too thick. Plus, the encased penny sleeve takes away from the card's presentation. It is sometimes wrinkly and caused glare.

I don't like the penny sleeve either. It's ugly, IMO. PSA uses something similar when they don't have a holder that properly fits the card. So in terms of sheer aesthetics, I like SGC best.

I know some people take issue with the gasket, but I've never had a problem.

[Johnny630]

I think many pre world war and post war look much better in SGC slabs.
The white borders or colors look great in their black inserts.
58 Toppps
33/34 Goudey
Diamond Stars
48 Leaf
T206’s and especially t205’s look much better in sgc slabs

[bbcard1]

I prefer PSA because it is much easier to break the cards out of their slabs.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by perezfan

I don't like the penny sleeve either. It's ugly, IMO. PSA uses something similar when they don't have a holder that properly fits the card. So in terms of sheer aesthetics, I like SGC best.

I know some people take issue with the gasket, but I've never had a problem.

I like SGC as well....until I had cards slide out of their gaskets.

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

I like SGC as well....until I had cards slide out of their gaskets.

And on my SGC 52 mantle with the "new white insert" that shows the grade and details came unglued and droops. Always trying to straighten it out as the card is diamond cut too. . and it looks caddywhompus.

They all look good in their own right though. Agree with others here on their assessments for each TPG

[RedsFan1941]

Originally Posted by Leon

Personally I think BVG is the best grader of vintage material. As far as market value for holders, PSA has the best marketing. Just my half cent.
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surprised to see you say that leon. thought you were on record of saying sgc was your choice? did this scandal change your mind or was it something else? or is my memory mistaking?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by RedsFan1941

surprised to see you say that leon. thought you were on record of saying sgc was your choice? did this scandal change your mind or was it something else? or is my memory mistaking?

I didn't say who was my choice, I said who I thought was the best at grading vintage currently. Andy B has been at BVG a long time and came in 2nd in a grading contest many moons ago. Derek G came in first on that one. Derek has been at Heritage a long time. So technically, if you go by that contest, BVG does have the best grader at a grading company. They just don't have good marketing behind their vintage for whatever reason.
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[JackW]

Originally Posted by Leon

I didn't say who was my choice, I said who I thought was the best at grading vintage currently. Andy B has been at BVG a long time and came in 2nd in a grading contest many moons ago. Derek G came in first on that one. Derek has been at Heritage a long time. So technically, if you go by that contest, BVG does have the best grader at a grading company. They just don't have good marketing behind their vintage for whatever reason.
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Leon, can you shed some light on the grading contest? I've never heard about that.

[ahumes13]

Originally Posted by JackW

Leon, can you shed some light on the grading contest? I've never heard about that.

Guessing it’s like a drinking contest, but with more beer...

[Rich Klein]

Originally Posted by JackW

Leon, can you shed some light on the grading contest? I've never heard about that.

PSA occasionally does grading contests at the NSCC. I think it was either 2003 or 2004 when they had the one where Derek won and Andy was second.

Andy, at the time, was working for a second tier grading company. By the time the NSCC was completed, Andy was on his was to Dallas to begin working for Beckett. PSA had another grading contest at the 2019 NSCC BTW. They may have had a few others along the way as well.

Regards
Rich

[Vintageclout]

Originally Posted by Leon

I didn't say who was my choice, I said who I thought was the best at grading vintage currently. Andy B has been at BVG a long time and came in 2nd in a grading contest many moons ago. Derek G came in first on that one. Derek has been at Heritage a long time. So technically, if you go by that contest, BVG does have the best grader at a grading company. They just don't have good marketing behind their vintage for whatever reason.
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Not agreeing or disagreeing with you Leon but you’re forgetting one major aspect here. Beckett deals with a “fraction” of the volume that PSA handles. I can only wonder how their alleged “accurate” head grader would perform if millions of vintage cards were passing his way? Totally different ballgame.

[Leon]

Actually Joe, I am only talking about knowledge.

Originally Posted by Vintageclout

Not agreeing or disagreeing with you Leon but you’re forgetting one major aspect here. Beckett deals with a “fraction” of the volume that PSA handles. I can only wonder how their alleged “accurate” head grader would perform if millions of vintage cards were passing his way? Totally different ballgame.