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[robertsmithnocure]

Originally Posted by CuriousGeorge

On that cue Jay....

Great cards Steven. The condition of that 1860 Brooklyn Atlantic’s CDV is incredible. If I had an extra $180K laying around, that card would be my pick. I can’t believe that it did not sell for a premium over the low grade Authentic example.

[CuriousGeorge]

30 years working 7 days/week made it happen for me. Not sure this CDV made it worth it though lol!

Originally Posted by robertsmithnocure

Great cards Steven. The condition of that 1860 Brooklyn Atlantic’s CDV is incredible. If I had an extra $180K laying around, that card would be my pick. I can’t believe that it did not sell for a premium over the low grade Authentic example.

[oldjudge]

Originally Posted by CuriousGeorge

30 years working 7 days/week made it happen for me. Not sure this CDV made it worth it though lol!

The lower grade Atlantic’s example had great provenance coming from a player’s family. That is why it traded for a premium.

[oldjudge]

Go back to the original question, the list is based on value of the lowest grade example. Neither the E107 Wagner nor the W600 Wagner make the list according to the OP’s criteria.

[Baseball Rarities]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

Go back to the original question, the list is based on value of the lowest grade example. Neither the E107 Wagner nor the W600 Wagner make the list according to the OP’s criteria.

When is the last time a low grade W600 Wagner Type 1 sold? A couple of very nice looking mid grade ones sold for $168K and $180K respectively recently and a nicer Type 2 sold for $264K.

[oldjudge]

So it sounds like the value is about $170,000 which would be a just miss. I do think the E107 Matty, Wagner and Young are great cards. However, they also aren’t quite valuable enough to make the list.

[Rhotchkiss]

Originally Posted by Baseball Rarities

When is the last time a low grade W600 Wagner Type 1 sold? A couple of very nice looking mid grade ones sold for $168K and $180K respectively recently and a nicer Type 2 sold for $264K.

I call dibs on the next type 1.....

[CuriousGeorge]

I had a long conversation with the boys at Heritage before I bought mine. They gave me piece of mind that what I was buying was as advertised so I trusted them. That was of course when I thought this was a reasonably fair playing field and before the likes of Brent, Gary, fake scans, stealing shipping charges, etc. Unfortunately now I have become far more cautious and have absolutely passed on cards I would have ordinarily went after.

Originally Posted by oldjudge

The lower grade Atlantic’s example had great provenance coming from a player’s family. That is why it traded for a premium.

[oldjudge]

Corey-I thought of adding the Creighton, but I didn’t know when it was issued (just after Creighton’s death or years later) so I did not include it. The Four Base Hits Kelly is a possibility. I don’t think the Grand Match ticket of Wright is worth enough to fall on the list. When it was listed in REA a few years ago it could not get an opening bid and was eventually pulled. I think it is a $50-$100,000 card which falls short in value. Two other possibilities are the Wright and Spalding Mort Rogers scorecards, but again they fall slightly short. Two other possibilities are the unique Ewing Kalamazoo Bat or the unique Ewing portrait N173. There is also the Peggy Popcorn Ruth.

[benjulmag]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

Corey-I thought of adding the Creighton, but I didn’t know when it was issued (just after Creighton’s death or years later) so I did not include it. The Four Base Hits Kelly is a possibility. I don’t think the Grand Match ticket of Wright is worth enough to fall on the list. When it was listed in REA a few years ago it could not get an opening bid and was eventually pulled. I think it is a $50-$100,000 card which falls short in value. Two other possibilities are the Wright and Spalding Mort Rogers scorecards, but again they fall slightly short. Two other possibilities are the unique Ewing Kalamazoo Bat or the unique Ewing portrait N173. There is also the Peggy Popcorn Ruth.

The reason the Grand Match of Wright was pulled had nothing to do with failure to get an opening bid. In fact, as I recall the card was pulled before the auction even opened. As to its value, the only known copy is graded "A" due to the corners being trimmed. I am fairly confident it would sell for more than several of the cards on your list if valued in PSA 1 condition.

We don't know the precise year the P&S Creighton was issued. Rucker in his book dated it c. 1863. Others believe it came out later. If I had to guess, I would date it to c. 1865, the year the Leslie's woodcut of Creighton was issued. Interest in him then was obviously still strong, and logically one would think the card would be issued when there was still strong interest in the player. Regardless the precise year of issue, the card being the only known player pose of whom to many is the game's first superstar, I believe it belongs on the list assuming cards of that type are eligible.

[oldjudge]

Originally Posted by benjulmag

The reason the Grand Match of Wright was pulled had nothing to do with failure to get an opening bid. In fact, as I recall the card was pulled before the auction even opened. As to its value, the only known copy is graded "A" due to the corners being trimmed. I am fairly confident it would sell for more than several of the cards on your list if valued in PSA 1 condition.

We don't know the precise year the P&S Creighton was issued. Rucker in his book dated it c. 1863. Others believe it came out later. If I had to guess, I would date it to c. 1865, the year the Leslie's woodcut of Creighton was issued. Interest in him then was obviously still strong, and logically one would think the card would be issued when there was still strong interest in the player. Regardless the precise year of issue, the card being the only known player pose of whom to many is the game's first superstar, I believe it belongs on the list assuming cards of that type are eligible.

Corey-Sounds like you know more than me about the Wright. Why was it pulled if not for a lack of a bid?