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Old 12-21-2019, 08:32 AM
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It also breaks my heart if that card is altered. Pre-grading days that card would've been the find of a lifetime even before it was "perfected" now it's quite possibly destroyed.
So true. Very sad
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Old 12-21-2019, 08:47 AM
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Apparently I can’t read. Says it is headed to auction soon. Should be interesting. Will go for a ton!
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Old 12-21-2019, 09:38 AM
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Well, it was graded a very long time ago with a "02" at the beginning of the cert number. So if it was trimmed, it was done way back in the early days.
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Well, it was graded a very long time ago with a "02" at the beginning of the cert number. So if it was trimmed, it was done way back in the early days.
Daniel Desmond (DP in the article) did a long interview with VCBC in 1996. He had altered thousands at that time and is still doing it today. Time means nothing.

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Daniel Desmond (DP in the article) did a long interview with VCBC in 1996. He had altered thousands at that time and is still doing it today. Time means nothing.

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When I got into collecting in the 80's several old time dealers said they trimmed cards back in the 70's all the time. Nobody seemed to care because they were old cards and it made them look better.
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Apparently I can’t read. Says it is headed to auction soon. Should be interesting. Will go for a ton!
great, then you can add it to the running total as the scam gets up closer to a billion.

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Old 12-21-2019, 11:47 AM
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Apparently I can’t read. Says it is headed to auction soon. Should be interesting. Will go for a ton!
If it goes for a ton, then the buyer better really like the label/flip. That's in a PSA holder? Kinda surprised to see that....
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If it goes for a ton, then the buyer better really like the label/flip. That's in a PSA holder? Kinda surprised to see that....
What's remotely surprising about it?

It simply accompanies tens of thousands of other altered cards just like it (in numbered PSA slabs). I'd be way more surprised if they had correctly labeled it for the "A" it is.

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I don’t like the bottom edge. Looks like bat ears. I would definitely ask for measurements if I were a potential buyer.
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I started the post as sort of a rhetorical question
I think we can mostly agree it doesn’t look great for the past history of this card.
But we all know there are plenty of people happy to buy the flip. And someone will with this one. For a ton of cash. I apologize if I am wrong but pretty sure I am not on this one.
Will be an interesting auction to follow when it comes up.

I think the beauty of old cards is in them looking believable and looking old. This card is beautiful but artificially so I think. So don’t love it. Would feel much better about a nice well centered 3 with wear on the corners.
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I started the post as sort of a rhetorical question
I think we can mostly agree it doesn’t look great for the past history of this card.
But we all know there are plenty of people happy to buy the flip. And someone will with this one. For a ton of cash. I apologize if I am wrong but pretty sure I am not on this one.
Will be an interesting auction to follow when it comes up.

I think the beauty of old cards is in them looking believable and looking old. This card is beautiful but artificially so I think. So don’t love it. Would feel much better about a nice well centered 3 with wear on the corners.
Great observations and completely agree. A large part of the charm is the natural wear a card endures over the past 110 years. Razor sharp corners and edges only make it look suspect.
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What's remotely surprising about it?

It simply accompanies tens of thousands of other altered cards just like it (in numbered PSA slabs). I'd be way more surprised if they had correctly labeled it for the "A" it is.
Yeah, I know, what should surprise me about that.... I would have figured that in light of what's going on these days, SCRUTINY would be a key word for PSA and Joe. Apparently scrutiny is something subjective, like grading.
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Yeah, I know, what should surprise me about that.... I would have figured that in light of what's going on these days, SCRUTINY would be a key word for PSA and Joe. Apparently scrutiny is something subjective, like grading.
But cashing in is not subjective. And they continue to cash in.
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What is the over/under on Cobby? 100k? 250k? 500k? 750K+ It will go for huge bucks.
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