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Old 12-21-2019, 02:34 PM
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Darren Rovell tweeting about it.
Lots of comments including- what is card trimming
Still so many people who have absolutely no idea about any of this.
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Old 12-21-2019, 02:58 PM
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Darren Rovell tweeting about it.
Lots of comments including- what is card trimming
Still so many people who have absolutely no idea about any of this.
Yup... maybe "celebrity involvement" is what it takes for people to eventually catch on to the scandal and the Third Party Grading sham.

Though CU stock is finally trending downward, perhaps more widespread publicity like this will finally get it to tank. If I were a shareholder, I'd be selling before this story inevitably hits the presses even bigger.

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Old 12-21-2019, 03:16 PM
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Sadly PSA is Teflon they will never be held accountable........ Emotions and Love of the Sport/Hobby cloud logic.

In my Opinion Investors will always be skeptical of this industry.....they’re going to find other hobbies for capital growth and appreciation. Ruined by Adam Henry’s
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Real bummer what has come out. I haven't bought a significant card in quite a while now...gun-shy. Even years ago, when I was in the T206 star card market, many cards just didn't look right sizewise & boarderwise. I often passed on suspect looking cards and waited for appropriate looking examples. Now it seems I pass altogether. Heck if I am going to pony up thousands for a single card now this situation has blown up. Just sucks. Sigh.
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Real bummer what has come out. I haven't bought a significant card in quite a while now...gun-shy. Even years ago, when I was in the T206 star card market, many cards just didn't look right sizewise & boarderwise. I often passed on suspect looking cards and waited for appropriate looking examples. Now it seems I pass altogether. Heck if I am going to pony up thousands for a single card now this situation has blown up. Just sucks. Sigh.
Provenance. Knowing who slabbed it will be a good thing in the future. Pedigreed cards (like the Lionel Carter Collection) should sell for a premium. Perhaps they will now that people are aware of the pervasive doctoring.
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Provenance!
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Provenance. Knowing who slabbed it will be a good thing in the future. Pedigreed cards (like the Lionel Carter Collection) should sell for a premium. Perhaps they will now that people are aware of the pervasive doctoring.
The ironic thing about that statement, is I have seen "Lionel Carter" cards with the "A" grade. I am pretty sure Mr.Carter didn't trim cards.
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Old 12-22-2019, 08:15 AM
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Where does this end? Unfortunately it probably doesn’t and here we are. How many more names? How many more scandals?
Shilling
Trimming
Grading
Hate it.
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The ironic thing about that statement, is I have seen "Lionel Carter" cards with the "A" grade. I am pretty sure Mr.Carter didn't trim cards.
And the ironic thing about your statement is that In the early days of collecting it was common for collectors to cut cards up in order for them to fit in various holders or means if storage...And conversely in an example such as the black swamp find how was it out of the realm of possibility some of these cards were trimmed in transit from the original buyer to the grading companies.

Similarly it would not shock me if Mr. meant trimmed some of his Gentlemens Mickey Mantle‘s that he acquired??
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