Deans cards

Republicaninmass · #1 12-23-2019, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by trambo

They don�t deal at all. I tried once but Dean told me not a chance.

Was he Frank with you?

I actually bought a card he had listed, and he refused to ship it. It ended up Being the only card hes ever auctioned.

buymycards · #2 12-23-2019, 07:42 AM

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These are currently listed on COMC by Deans. They are listed as Mint, but they look more like VG. I wonder if they are accepting offers?

japhi · #3 12-23-2019, 08:25 AM

Allow me to be the outlier here but I respect his model. He understands that there is a cost to buy, scan, store, sell, pack and ship and card and it�s more then what most sellers charge. There are a lot of guys doing this as a hobby and probably making just enough to fuel collection purchases. Good on him for making money in a business most struggle to make money in.

japhi · #4 12-23-2019, 08:41 AM

Also, people complain about his prices but if these cards are so easy to get for much cheaper elsewhere whats the problem? I�ve bought from him because I haven�t been able to find reliable online sellers. So paid a premium I guess, but was the best option for what I was looking for at that moment. That is obviously his marketing strategy....he knows that unless you have access to card shows or a great local dealer, its not that easy for set builders to find a stack of cards they need

cardsagain74 · #5 12-23-2019, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by japhi

Also, people complain about his prices but if these cards are so easy to get for much cheaper elsewhere whats the problem? I�ve bought from him because I haven�t been able to find reliable online sellers. So paid a premium I guess, but was the best option for what I was looking for at that moment. That is obviously his marketing strategy....he knows that unless you have access to card shows or a great local dealer, its not that easy for set builders to find a stack of cards they need

This is exactly the opposite of what I've found since I got back into the hobby recently I don't know if this is the case with pre-WW2 material (since I'm only into late '40s-mid 70s stuff), but I've filled sets and gotten whatever else I needed from various dealers and auction houses of all sizes on ebay, and reliability and customer service has never been an issue. Most of these people also "buy, scan, store, sell, and pack, etc" too. If you look into a seller's ratings/buyer comments, their merchandise, and how they present things, it's not that tough to see who to avoid. And there usually isn't a problem with finding what you need at a somewhat reasonable price either (especially with auctions). The big houses are always breaking all kinds of sets of various grades.

But, to each his own. And as far as Dean's business model, he's obviously free to do whatever works. But I just don't see eye to eye with anyone who makes his living off of knowingly charging people much, much more than something is worth for merchandise (partly the guise of "customer service" making up the difference, because it doesn't). There is also an element of taking advantage of those who are vastly overpaying but don't realize it.

CurtisFlood · #6 12-24-2019, 06:08 PM

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1960 Topps - [Base] #451 - Curt Simmons [MINT]
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These are currently listed on COMC by Deans. They are listed as Mint, but they look more like VG. I wonder if they are accepting offers?

Well, that Simmons card is hard to find centered.

trambo · #7 12-23-2019, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

Was he Frank with you?

I actually bought a card he had listed, and he refused to ship it. It ended up Being the only card hes ever auctioned.

I think he was Dean trying to be frank with me. Then again, it may have been Frank trying to impersonate Dean. I'm not really sure...

wondo · #8 12-23-2019, 09:01 AM

Dean's pricing includes a predetermined discount available on its website dependent upon the dollar amount. I bought a Fatima team card from them that I had difficulty finding on the marketplace. It was the only one available in a six-month period - I finally relented. Pleasant on the phone, quick service, good packaging. nice card.

My take is that Dean's can be useful if it's a hard to get item, but not the commodty type cards.

Leon · #9 12-23-2019, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by wondo

Dean's pricing includes a predetermined discount available on its website dependent upon the dollar amount. I bought a Fatima team card from them that I had difficulty finding on the marketplace. It was the only one available in a six-month period - I finally relented. Pleasant on the phone, quick service, good packaging. nice card.

My take is that Dean's can be useful if it's a hard to get item, but not the commodty type cards.

+1 .....The one or two things I have bought from them were discounted something like 10%-20% on their own website vs ebay. And i called them and they said that was their standard rate. Not sure lately as this was a few years ago. Good service but kind of high asking prices on most things. But they do have a lot of good stuff.

Case12 · #10 12-23-2019, 09:22 AM

Millcreek Sports seems to do this too.

Fuddjcal · #11 12-23-2019, 09:49 AM

The thing I always like about Dean's is that his prices are exactly DOUBLE that the actual "Value" of the card so I used to like to look a t his stuff and divide it in 2 so I know how much to pay.

That said, profit is not a dirty word and if he wants to double his prices, as a broker, that's fine with me.

Rhotchkiss · #12 12-23-2019, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Fuddjcal

That said, profit is not a dirty word and if he wants to double his prices, as a broker, that's fine with me.

This might be the first time I have ever agreed with Fuddjcal; maybe bc it�s the first thread I have read where he sounds lucid and not like a raving mad lunatic. But I agree that profit is not a dirty word and Dean is free to set his prices at whatever he wants. (Meanwhile, is there actually a Dean?).

I have never bought from Dean, and I expect I never will given his silly high prices. But then again, almost every card listed on eBay for the past two years is listed at a stupid high price, making eBay a nice app to look at but a non-existant buying option for me.

todeen · #13 12-23-2019, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Case12

Millcreek Sports seems to do this too.

I like Millcreek Sports. I live in Washington State, where they are located. I live in a city with no LCS. I trust them because of service and authenticity. They get access to public signings for the Mariners and Seahawks. And they offer a large supply of hall of fame players. I only buy autographs through them, but they do have good discount sales once or twice a year. So if you have an eye on an item, and you can wait, you get a better deal.

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Cliff Bowman · #14 12-23-2019, 09:55 AM

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My take is that Dean's can be useful if it's a hard to get item, but not the commodty type cards.

Bingo! I collect obscure and mostly unknown printing flaw cards, and Dean's Cards has been a treasure trove over the years but you really have to search for them. Their high quality scans of the fronts and the backs are very useful. I would not have any of these printing flaw cards minus the 63 Sadowski and the 80 Niekro if not for Dean's. All of the cards other than the 73 Reuss are partially missing the final black ink coating. I agree it is ridiculous to pay their prices for regular cards that you can find on eBay in the same condition for much less.

Leon · #15 12-29-2019, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

Bingo! I collect obscure and mostly unknown printing flaw cards, and Dean's Cards has been a treasure trove over the years but you really have to search for them. Their high quality scans of the fronts and the backs are very useful. I would not have any of these printing flaw cards minus the 63 Sadowski and the 80 Niekro if not for Dean's. All of the cards other than the 73 Reuss are partially missing the final black ink coating. I agree it is ridiculous to pay their prices for regular cards that you can find on eBay in the same condition for much less.

That's interesting, finding nuances because of their vast inventory and high quality scans.

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