Probstein123 Experiences

samosa4u · #1 12-23-2019, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Phil68

Oddly, I saw many cards offered on eBay by this fellow before I met him at a show, It was like seeing Elvis as I had built up an image in my head.

Wtf? lol

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Originally Posted by Phil68

Anyway,
the fellow was actually quite rude and seemed to lack "people skills". I can always get past that as everyone is wired up differently. However, he sells some of my cards--which is great--some do ok, others not too good, but his feedback is downright horrific in hobby terms.

If this guy was rude to you, then why would you do business with him?

bnorth · #2 12-23-2019, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by samosa4u

If this guy was rude to you, then why would you do business with him?

The almighty dollar is always the answer. If there is something shady in the hobby Tricky Ricky Problemstein has been called out for doing it. Basically a low rent version of PWCC.

Yes I am a moron for caring.

Phil68 · #3 12-23-2019, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by samosa4u

Wtf? lol

If this guy was rude to you, then why would you do business with him?

Just an awful post.

First, I am not doing business with him. I looked to folks on the board for their experiences. At no point did I discuss all the business we do. Being rude can be a momentary thing--like you just were. I'm sure you're a good guy, but nobody would know it by your post. It was purely confrontational, personal...and just plain stupid. When a member here asks for insights, you should either offer those insights or not respond. Many have offered exactly what I needed, and I thank them.

Secondly, the Elvis comment is called sarcasm. Typically, when someone offers a gazillion sportscards and is extremely visible--yet you don't know the person at all--meeting them has what I call the "Elvis affect". He could've looked like a fat guy with mustard stains on his shirt that needs to give his credit card number before speaking to a female (like most dealers I have known), he could've been Levi Bleamish, or just plain old happy, easy Brian Drent.
The point is, he's hobby famous, and I had never met him.

I don't want trouble, but will try to be understood.

**I see where I stated he sells some of my cards** This may be confusing. I HAVE NEVER given him cards to sell. He sells quite a few of the cards I make when OTHERS consign to him. His scans are poor and misrepresent the quality of the work. The cards have brought OK prices. He had no idea who I was when I stopped at his table in Chicago--we didn't get that far. He was pompous and I smiled and said "great stuff" and walked away.

Snapolit1 · #4 12-23-2019, 02:02 PM

I think Probstein's biggest "problem" is that he treats cards as run of the mill consumer goods that he's passing along in routine commercial transaction and doesn't seem to give two shits about what he's selling. He doesn't talk breathelessly about "assets" "appreciating" as "investments," doesn't talk about "portfolios" and "rates of return," and doesn't wax poetic about magical "pasteboards" being the best example "extant" bla bla bla. I think the fact that he doesn't act like he's selling sacred holy artifacts just rubs some people the wrong way. Oh, and he tries to sell things at high prices. Imagine that.

Phil68 · #5 12-23-2019, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Snapolit1

I think Probstein's biggest "problem" is that he treats cards as run of the mill consumer goods that he's passing along in routine commercial transaction and doesn't seem to give two shits about what he's selling. He doesn't talk breathelessly about "assets" "appreciating" as "investments," doesn't talk about "portfolios" and "rates of return," and doesn't wax poetic about magical "pasteboards" being the best example "extant" bla bla bla. I think the fact that he doesn't act like he's selling sacred holy artifacts just rubs some people the wrong way. Oh, and he tries to sell things at high prices. Imagine that.

Very entertaining and likely accurate portrayal!

Gradedcardman · #6 12-24-2019, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Snapolit1

I think Probstein's biggest "problem" is that he treats cards as run of the mill consumer goods that he's passing along in routine commercial transaction and doesn't seem to give two shits about what he's selling. He doesn't talk breathelessly about "assets" "appreciating" as "investments," doesn't talk about "portfolios" and "rates of return," and doesn't wax poetic about magical "pasteboards" being the best example "extant" bla bla bla. I think the fact that he doesn't act like he's selling sacred holy artifacts just rubs some people the wrong way. Oh, and he tries to sell things at high prices. Imagine that.

It may be accurate but does it make a difference ? If you want someone to be passionate about selling your cards then the consignment route is not for you. Set up your own account on a selling site or sell privately. Its a business for him and he does well at it.

Aquarian Sports Cards · #7 12-23-2019, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Phil68

Just an awful post.

First, I am not doing business with him. I looked to folks on the board for their experiences. At no point did I discuss all the business we do. Being rude can be a momentary thing--like you just were. I'm sure you're a good guy, but nobody would know it by your post. It was purely confrontational, personal...and just plain stupid. When a member here asks for insights, you should either offer those insights or not respond. Many have offered exactly what I needed, and I thank them.

Secondly, the Elvis comment is called sarcasm. Typically, when someone offers a gazillion sportscards and is extremely visible--yet you don't know the person at all--meeting them has what I call the "Elvis affect". He could've looked like a fat guy with mustard stains on his shirt that needs to give his credit card number before speaking to a female (like most dealers I have known), he could've been Levi Bleamish, or just plain old happy, easy Brian Drent.
The point is, he's hobby famous, and I had never met him.

I don't want trouble, but will try to be understood.

**I see where I stated he sells some of my cards** This may be confusing. I HAVE NEVER given him cards to sell. He sells quite a few of the cards I make when OTHERS consign to him. His scans are poor and misrepresent the quality of the work. The cards have brought OK prices. He had no idea who I was when I stopped at his table in Chicago--we didn't get that far. He was pompous and I smiled and said "great stuff" and walked away.

Not that it bothered me but I misunderstood you originally also. This clears it up and actually makes your story funnier.

samosa4u · #8 12-23-2019, 05:09 PM

Sorry for dropping the F-bomb, but your Elvis comment rubbed me the wrong way.

Now either my reading comprehension is very poor or you're not writing properly, but your previous comment looked like you were saying that even though he was rude to you, you still handed your cards over to him.

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Originally Posted by Phil68

He sells quite a few of the cards I make when OTHERS consign to him.

??? What does this mean ???

Aquarian Sports Cards · #9 12-23-2019, 06:17 PM

He makes custom cards and sells them. Some people who have bought them have subsequently consigned them to Probstein.

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