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American Lithographic (ALC) printed exactly 32 - T205 subjects with DRUM backs. Furthermore, ALC carried over their A = B = C = D template
from the T206 set by printing AMERICAN BEAUTY, BROAD LEAF, CYCLE, and DRUM backs on matching T205 subjects. This theory was presented 6 years ago on this forum. Refer to..... http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...ght=t205+hindu The key factor in this A = B = C = D connection is the Black American Beauty back. Note that the T205 subjects with the Green American Beauty back will NOT be found with a DRUM back. AB = BL = CY = DR confirmed check-list...... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() James Austin ....………..………..…..…… Austin ...………………..………..........…. Austin ...……………......……...…..….. Austin John Bates ..………………………………….. Bates ………………………………………...... Bates ………………………………...……... Bates Beals Becker ..……………………………….. Becker ……………………...…...………….. Becker ..………………………………………... X George Bell .………………………………….. Bell …..………………………………………….. Bell ……………………………………………… Bell William Bergen ………………………....... Bergen ………………………………………….. Bergen ……………………………………….. Bergen Russell Blackburne ……………...………. Blackburne .........................…..... Blackburne ............................... Blackburne Albert Bridwell ............................ Bridwell ..................................... Bridwell ................................... Bridwell Mordecai Brown........................... Brown ....................................... Brown ..................................... Brown Hal Chase (both ears) .……….....…… Chase …………..................……………. Chase ...................................... Chase Frank Corridon ........................... Corridon .................................... Corridon ................................... Corridon Thomas Downey ......................... Downey ..................................... Downey ................................... Downey Louis Evans ................................ Evans ........................................ Evans ...................................... Evans George Graham (blue signature).... Graham ..................................... Graham ................................... Graham Buck Herzog ............................... Herzog ...................................... Herzog ...................................... X Richard Hoblitzell ........................ Hoblitzell .................................... Hoblitzell ................................. Hoblitzell Miller Huggins ............................ Huggins ……………………...…...………….. Huggins ..………………………………………. X Jack Knight ................................ Knight ....................................... Knight ...................................... Knight A. Latham .................................. Latham ..................................... Latham ..................................... Latham Thomas Leach ............................ Leach ........................................ Leach ....................................... Leach John Lobert ..………………………………... Lobert ……………………...…...………….... Lobert ..…………………………………………. X Briscoe Lord ..………………………………… Lord …..………………………………………….. Lord ……………………………………………… Lord Patrick Moran ............................. Moran ........................................ Moran ...................................…. Moran Frederick Olmstead ..................... Olmstead ................................... Olmstead .................................. Olmstead George Paskert ........................... Paskert ...................................... Paskert ..................................... Paskert Fred Payne ................................. Payne ........................................ Payne ....................................… Payne Edward Phelps ............................ Phelps ....................................... Phelps ...................................... Phelps John Quinn ................................. Quinn ........................................ Quinn ....................................... Quinn Lewis Richie ................................ Richie ........................................ Richie ...................................... Richie David Shean ............................... Shean ........................................ Shean ...................................... Shean George Stone ............................. Stone ......................................... Stone ....................................... Stone Zach Wheat ...........................….. Wheat ........................................ Wheat ...................................….. X Harry Wolter ………………………………... Wolter .……………………………........…….. Wolter ...................................... Wolter Note.……. X denotes this T205 subject has yet to be confirmed with the DRUM back. However, these five subjects have already been confirmed with the A - B - C backs. Therefore, I expect these 5 guys will eventually be discovered with the DRUM back. Please chime in if you can confirm any of these 5 guys with the DRUM back, Thanks. TED Z T206 Reference . Last edited by tedzan; 12-31-2019 at 10:50 PM. Reason: Corrected typo. |
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Hey guys,
T205 DRUM cards don't appear to get the same respect as T206 DRUM's do. And, actually they are as scarce (if not more) than the T206 ones. T205 HINDU cards are definitely scarcer than the T206 ones. OK you T205 collectors, let's see some of these gems. The T205 DRUM cards are defined (32 subjects). T205 HINDU cards are not well defined. To date, 23 subjects are confirmed with the HINDU back, I expect that more of these T205's will be discovered. TED Z T206 Reference . |
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Displayed here is another one of my 75% complete A = B = C = D runs. If anyone on this forum has a spare BROAD LEAF Wolter, email me.......
tedzan11@comcast.net ![]() ![]() . ![]() ![]() ![]() This group of 32 subjects (Post #23) were printed with as many as 12 different tobacco backs, which may be the most printed than on any other T205 subject. I may be wrong on this observation, and I expect you T205 guys will chime in. Feel free to correct me. Check-list of the T205 backs for this group of 32 subjects.………... ![]() ![]() AMERICAN BEAUTY (black print) BROAD LEAF CYCLE DRUM HASSAN (Factory #30) HASSAN (Factory #649) HONEST LONG CUT PIEDMONT (Factory #25) PIEDMONT (Factory #42) POLAR BEAR SOVEREIGN SWEET CAPORAL (red print) TED Z T206 Reference . Last edited by tedzan; 12-31-2019 at 10:57 PM. Reason: Corrected typo. |
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There are a lot of great cards on this thread. Looking forward to the opening of T205Resource... Here are a few Drum. I have been meaning to do a T205 Hobby run. Lot's of backs on that one...
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Happy New Year, Rob Some nice DRUM's you have there. You could have fun going for a Hoblitzell run. You are already way ahead of the game, with the DRUM and PIEDMONT Factory #42 backs. Nine of the remaining 10 backs are relatively easy to find, and of course the BROAD LEAF will be a toughie. But, then those silly variations ("No Stats", etc.) of Hoblitzell can drive you "nuts" ![]() TED Z T206 Reference . |
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Happy New Year, Ted.
I was looking at some prior auctions of T205 Hoblitzell "No Stats" and all of the one's I saw had a Hasson Factory 30 back. Is there a Hassan 649 with no stats? Here's a Titus with a Piedmont 42 back. It might be easier and cheaper for me to just do a Titus back run. Rob
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Rob Titus is not part of the A = B = C = D group, so this T205 will have less than 12 different backs to go for. So, Titus will be an easier and cheaper run. Or since you have a nice DRUM of Wolter, why not try for his run. Having the DRUM of Wolter, is what started me doing a run of his cards. Besides the BROAD LEAF and the PIEDMONT #42, the rest of his 9 backs are relatively easy to find. Good luck in whatever you decide, I know you enjoy a challenge. TED Z T206 Reference . |
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Rob I forgot to answer your question regarding the "No Stats" back. I do not know for sure if the HASSAN #649 is found with the "No Stats" back. My experience with putting together a 209-card T205 set in the late 1990's, is that if a HASSAN #30 was printed, so was a #649 was printed. The 209th card in that set was the "No Stats" Hoblitzell, but I don't recall what back was on it. I sold the set many years ago. TED Z T206 Reference . |
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Ron - Uncle Nacki T206 Master Monster Front/Back Set Collector - www.youtube.com/unclenacki T206 Basic "The Monster" Set 514/524 T206 Advanced "Master Monster" Front/Back Set ?? ![]() COMPLETE T206 BACK SUBSETS Old Mill Southern Leagues - Black Ink 48/48 Sweet Caporal 350-460 Factory 30 Full Color "No Prints" 28/28 NEAR COMPLETE T206 BACK SUBSETS Polar Bear 245/250 Sovereign 460 50/52 Sweet Caporal 150 Factory 649 Overprint 31/34 Piedmont 350 "Elite 11" 9/11 |
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