Resource For Post War Variations Collectors

[Zach Wheat]

Nice Al. Duly noted and book marked.

[tschock]

Great stuff, Al! I was poking around and have a couple of comments that I think may help others.

A ) Would you be able to list the differences in the captions? Some are obvious (1956 team cards) and others are not (many of the 1956 cards, some of the 1971 checklists) unless you already know what you are looking for (1956 Williams yellow line).
B ) I didn't see any of the 1973 manager/coaches variations. If there are known variations that you don't have examples of, you could have a blank space with a request for examples.
C ) Consider putting in an 'urban legends' section as well (where needed). For example, under the 1970 section you might have a blurb about the Fregosi "no pickup" card (unless it truly DOES exist).

Regardless of the above, this is a massive undertaking and awesome work putting this together. Thanks!

[ALR-bishop]

Taylor--I think Mike and his cohorts are very receptive to comments and suggestions. The basic format started with an update to Gilkeson's publication which was in that format

They do have the 73 coaches. For some reason the site has occasionally dropped certain lists for certain years, but they have a list for 73, so check back later.

They are definitely interested in listing any missing variations and debunking any urban legends.

This is not a full time job for these guys so feedback may take time to show up in the lists

They do have a notes section under many lists that deals with well known print defects and urban legends that do not make the main list for lack of verification or not being in compliance with their definition of a variation.

I will point out your comments to Mike, although you can make them on the site

[Rich Klein]

I glanced through the site and there are some of the recent updates which are obvious (1990 Upper Deck Weston for example) and need no more help and some which really need explanation (the 1996-97 SP Frank Thomas and Ken Griffey Jr.). I think if you are going to show a picture and the difference is not totally obvious you must explain the difference.

Rich

[ALR-bishop]

Agree with you Rich that if you are unfamiliar with a listed variant, the descriptions can sometimes be unclear or confusing. I have asked Mike for clarification on some descriptions and he has readily helped with further info. I think he is very receptive to that type of input for the site

[Rufmeister]

Originally Posted by Rich Klein

I glanced through the site and there are some of the recent updates which are obvious (1990 Upper Deck Weston for example) and need no more help and some which really need explanation (the 1996-97 SP Frank Thomas and Ken Griffey Jr.). I think if you are going to show a picture and the difference is not totally obvious you must explain the difference.

Rich

Thanks for checking out the website and thanks again Al for this posting here.

Each blog contains a checklist and sometimes photos for the year(s) listed in title. When the underlined file is clicked on/downloaded, there will be a listing with description of each of the variations as seen in the photos. I have just finished adding notes to the photos mentioned above. I will try to improve as we go along and your comments will help make this site a special one.
Most appreciated,
Mike

[Rufmeister]

Originally Posted by tschock

Great stuff, Al! I was poking around and have a couple of comments that I think may help others.

A ) Would you be able to list the differences in the captions? Some are obvious (1956 team cards) and others are not (many of the 1956 cards, some of the 1971 checklists) unless you already know what you are looking for (1956 Williams yellow line).
B ) I didn't see any of the 1973 manager/coaches variations. If there are known variations that you don't have examples of, you could have a blank space with a request for examples.
C ) Consider putting in an 'urban legends' section as well (where needed). For example, under the 1970 section you might have a blurb about the Fregosi "no pickup" card (unless it truly DOES exist).

Regardless of the above, this is a massive undertaking and awesome work putting this together. Thanks!

Hi, thanks for the comments. I am not sure what happened but I have just finished adding photos of the 1973 Topps manager/coaches as requested.

Also, I have noted in the downloaded file in certain blogs of cards rumored to exist along with a note saying something like unconfirmed or waiting on confirmation. I am not familiar with the Fregosi variation mentioned and will need to do some research. Any and all help is appreciated.

Most appreciated in spotting this problem,
Sincerely,
Mike

[ALR-bishop]

Welcome to the Board Mike. Tom was participating quite a bit in the long variations thread but have not seen him post in awhile

Taylor-- what is the Fregosi no pick up card ?

[JollyElm]

Don't want to get my panties in a bunch, but tell the authors of the site to give proper credit. I checked out the 1973 page after reading this thread, and BOOM! there's my discovery of the third 1973 #280 Al Kaline 'missing link' variation from this thread (http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=216736) shown and they have a footnote giving credit for the graphic I CREATED to someone else. Huh??? It shouldn't annoy me, but it does. I've had quite a few 'revelatory' discoveries that I've shared on this site over the years (1964 Topps Giants cropping differences, 1971 Coin Checklist, 1967 and 1969 Topps cropping differences, to name a few) and would hate to think someone could just grab the pics I created/posted and take credit for them. That's really weak. Rant over.

[Rufmeister]

Originally Posted by JollyElm

Don't want to get my panties in a bunch, but tell the authors of the site to give proper credit. I checked out the 1973 page after reading this thread, and BOOM! there's my discovery of the third 1973 #280 Al Kaline 'missing link' variation from this thread (http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=216736) shown and they have a footnote giving credit for the graphic I CREATED to someone else. Huh??? It shouldn't annoy me, but it does. I've had quite a few 'revelatory' discoveries that I've shared on this site over the years (1964 Topps Giants cropping differences, 1971 Coin Checklist, 1967 and 1969 Topps cropping differences, to name a few) and would hate to think someone could just grab the pics I created/posted and take credit for them. That's really weak. Rant over.

Good evening, I sincerely apologize for posting the incorrect credit for the Kaline photos. I was sent this photo several years ago along with many others from another collector and have been trying to find the variations ever since. I assumed it was theirs when posting, sorry. Please send me your name so I can give the proper credit. Also, I would be very interested in your help in creating a complete listing of all the existing variations, as well as, debunking others that are on most collector’s want lists, but have yet to find or confirm existence. Thank you for bringing this to my attention.
Sincerely,
Mike

[JollyElm]

Originally Posted by Rufmeister

Good evening, I sincerely apologize for posting the incorrect credit for the Kaline photos. I was sent this photo several years ago along with many others from another collector and have been trying to find the variations ever since. I assumed it was theirs when posting, sorry. Please send me your name so I can give the proper credit. Also, I would be very interested in your help in creating a complete listing of all the existing variations, as well as, debunking others that are on most collector’s want lists, but have yet to find or confirm existence. Thank you for bringing this to my attention.
Sincerely,
Mike

Hey Mike. If you just put "JollyElm from net54," that'll be fine by me.

[tschock]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

Welcome to the Board Mike. Tom was participating quite a bit in the long variations thread but have not seen him post in awhile

Taylor-- what is the Fregosi no pick up card ?

Al,

The 1970 Topps #570 Fregosi has a picture of him in a ground ball fielding position. In the back ground seen between his legs is a white pickup truck. Supposedly there is a version where the white pickup truck doesn't exist (airbrushed out?). I have never seen one or know of anyone who has seen one, yet it will popup on some variation/want lists. I don't believe this card actually exists.

[ALR-bishop]

Thanks, Taylor

[insidethewrapper]

How can I contact Mike Cady and/or George Vrechek ? Any email addreses ? Are they on here ?

I looked at the site. It is great ! Will the 1933-1947 Years be listed also ?

I'd be willing to work on variations pre-1948 .