Small Traditions LLC/SCANDAL UPDATE

[Stonepony]

I’ve won 1 thing from one of his auctions... luckily it was a “ hand cut” card by designation anyway.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

They even tried to warn people with the company name...

EDIT: Reading the thread is so depressing. Just when you think you've come to grips with the situation it keeps getting worse.

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

They even tried to warn people with the company name...

EDIT: Reading the thread is so depressing. Just when you think you've come to grips with the situation it keeps getting worse.

it's actually right on time. There are 25-100 of these guys. We are only on #5. They will all get exposed as will PSA and the billion dollar fraud is right on schedule. Let's POP!

[Tomi]

Originally Posted by Stonepony

I’ve won 1 thing from one of his auctions... luckily it was a “ hand cut” card by designation anyway.

Same here. At least you know it was trimmed but they're supposed to be. He had an Exhibits card that was a POP 1 Mantle that I wanted and the left side was just wavy. Had to pass. Such a shame what our hobby has come to. These people need to serve time for these crimes. PSA will eventually feel it when a deep pocket collector gets screwed and goes after them.

[toppcat]

Some indictments might slow things down.

[pokerplyr80]

I believe I spoke with him briefly once after winning an auction and paying before updating my shipping address. Nothing related to these accusations. He did make the change and shipped the card out quickly. I no longer own the card.

[Johnny630]

PSA is Teflon...they will never be held accountable or liable they only offer OPINIONS

[conor912]

Wow. Trimming Lionel Carter cards? Nothing’s sacred anymore.

[BeanTown]

I hope he pays out the few consignors he had. A buddy of mine passed away and the person handling his affairs opted to go with Dave at Small Traditions to sell his collection. The proceeds are supposed to go to his only child his surviving Daughter. I didnt like the way they auctioned off most his stuff as they made up huge wholesale lots and gave a brief description along with a picture or two.

I heard Small Traditions was going to grade a lot of cards, but then I see many big lots were not graded and all raw. Wouldn't surprise me, if the winner(s) of some of these lots all knew most cards were mint and ripe for grading. A lot of his collection he obtained in the 90s and early 2000s. My buddy didnt like grading, as he was an excellent grader, without having someone else's opinion.

I hope everything works out where his Daughter and other consignors are paid.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by BeanTown

I hope he pays out the few consignors he had. A buddy of mine passed away and the person handling his affairs opted to go with Dave at Small Traditions to sell his collection. The proceeds are supposed to go to his only child his surviving Daughter. I didnt like the way they auctioned off most his stuff as they made up huge wholesale lots and gave a brief description along with a picture or two.

I heard Small Traditions was going to grade a lot of cards, but then I see many big lots were not graded and all raw. Wouldn't surprise me, if the winner(s) of some of these lots all knew most cards were mint and ripe for grading. What a dis service to my friend and his Daughter. A lot of his collection he obtained in the 90s and early 2000s. My buddy didnt like grading, as he was an excellent grader, without having someone else's opinion.

I hope everything works out where his Daughter and other consignors are paid.

I hate to say it, but when an auction does that they are usually going to buy the lot themselves and then list it properly. Mastro was known for this.

[bluez]

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[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by Johnny630

PSA is Teflon...they will never be held accountable or liable they only offer OPINIONS

We can HOPE! Just like I hope the Easter Bunny comes in April

[Leon]

Something I said back then makes as much sense today..

Sometimes when ya' sit back and think about it, resubmitting in a holder shouldn't be allowed. If you want to resubmit you have to crack it and send it in. And all submissions would truly be anonymous to the graders. Whatever it gets it gets. That would seem more arms length than submitting in a holder and not being able to go down in grade or arguing, especially in person, for a better one (admittedly I have done that and rarely succeeded . )

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[swarmee]

It's amazing to see how many trimmed Exhibits and postcards are going through Small Traditions, then compare it to the grades that the PACK-PULLED Exhibit cards submitted through Vintage Breaks that mainly get EX-MT 6s straight from cello packs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-SwEMvt7fw