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Whether Lifted Gloss Equals Paper Loss and How it Affects PSA grade for you.
Wanted to get a second opinion about whether the missing gloss in the top right white border constitututes paper loss to you? How would it affect your appraisal of a card in terms of PSA (or SGC) grade? How would it affect your personal appraisal of the card, dollar-wise and feels-wise? What about if the card was already graded Altered? Thanks for your thoughts! |
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I would believe that is an indicator of a rebuilt corner.
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vintage dried out tape removal? I dont know how PSA would grade this I would guess paper loss.
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Unfortunately, the answer is contingent upon who is submitting the card.
In this case, I would lean more towards tape removal (or perhaps the result of using a mounting corner) than a completely rebuilt corner. |
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Take it into a dark room and shine a UV light over it.
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Depends on whom submits the card>>>>that's the bottom line
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Looks more than lifted gloss. Looks as if the first layer of the stock is removed.
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I haven't seen the card in person but I'm trying to nail down a fair price range for a card that already has a confirmed trimmed edge. The discussion is, how would this card otherwise grade if it hadn't been trimmed - like how does it show? The subtract from there since it's also altered. Last edited by RiceBondsMntna2Young; 01-14-2020 at 01:25 PM. |
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Ugh... everyone is still so hung up on a number grade. It's really quite meaningless to assign a number to this.
I guess if you were to pretend it's not altered, then maybe a 3 at best. If the tape (or whatever it was) took off more than just the glaze, and it lost the very top layer of paper, then a 2 at best. But either way it's an "A" so what does it really matter? |
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I know you're showing the area 'missing' the gloss, but the picture makes it confusing, as it looks like there is paper loss there. Can you post a picture where we can see what the card 'really' looks like overall? In other words, not in a way/angle intended to show a lack of gloss in a specific area, but what the card actually looks like in hand?
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I don’t begrudge anyone for wanting to make money/profit on their cards. I, just replying to why I believe people are hung up on the number grade. . |
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Since the card is also trimmed, WTF does it matter what a hypothetical number grade would be? That's the part I take issue with. The card is an "A" regardless... case closed.
The only real reason (IMO) that someone would care about a hypothetical number is for the prospect of buying it, and later trying to re-grade or pass it off as a numerically graded card. And if this is really what the TPGs have "done right" (according to the OP), it might take an eternity to dig into everything they've done wrong. |
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Also, way to twist my point about the utility of a numerical grading system in theory into a defense of how the TPGs actually behave on the hobby. I will say, I'm not sure I see this level of paranoia as helping to make this hobby any better than Mastro and company. |
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